The REAL LIFE of an AMERICAN REALITY TV STAR- Justine Joy - Ep 45

Welcome to a my to loud the podcast. Hey guys, welcome back to a my to loud the podcast with Sophie aka the mother fricking oddity today's sort of like loud statement I'm gonna be saying and it definitely goes well with the guest I have on today is Everyone thinks they want to be on TV until they see what the internet thinks of them and then it's like crazy situation because if you look everybody sings they want to be like a TV star movie star An influencer until they realize that fame is a really scary thing So we're gonna get into the realities of being a reality TV star because I have a guest with me who I'm really really excited to hang out with Justine welcome to a my to loud the podcast Oh Thank you so much. I'm so happy to be here. Oh, hey, how you been I mean that I'm so happy you're finally like visiting I haven't literally the last time I saw you was like the tart trip. I know that was a fun time though That was like that was a crazy time. Yeah, that was like new years what two years ago. It was a two year. What's it more or? Yeah, we were born born together. Yeah, that was the last time I think it was the island the other one That's crazy. Oh, yeah, that was born. Oh Oh, that was a mess of a fucking show It was a good ass time though. It was a good ass time trip. I got no it was a good god That was a time for like when we when I went on that trip We're all like the guinea pigs for like the tar drama and that's because remember because we're all on that trip like can we show No, we were all like so nervous about it ended up working out because of course they dropped hard But then everyone just realized that like yeah, they've known their best behavior ever since so shout out to tar Should I see Maureen love you love Maureen heart another trip in my tart coming up. I don't know where you're up to but listen We want to be back But guys this is just seen first of all is your last name actually joy? No, that's my middle name So your real name is actually joy. I thought it was just cuz you spread joy Oh That's a girl No, my middle name's joy my last names in deeper. You want joy as like you're you know how people have stage names Did you always wanted to be just to enjoy all you just happened? No, so I honestly think like So my dad he's like a he's a teacher, you know, he's a math teacher for high school So you know how like students can be and stuff like that and like he's always just been weird about like being in my Content stuff. So just like at a privacy. I try not to put like because not a lot of people have my last name Yeah, you know, so I go by joy just cuz like it's also easier. Yeah, it is Yeah, but also just to kind of like keep my family's like like stuff Yeah, I think you know, I love that even though I post them all the time No, I know you're we're gonna talk about your family videos cuz I love love love love them down. Okay, so I have an intro for Justine outside of what we just shared so Today under my two-law the podcast we have actual reality TV royalty in the building Okay, she was born in the Congo most of the US as a kid and has been choosing joy and resilience ever since If I say something wrong you gotta let me know. I worked hard at this Oh my god You first met her in all violent USA season two where she went from overlooked to unforgettable I made history as part of the first black couples everywhere in the American franchise Then because once just wasn't enough she came back on love Island games won the entire theme because she's a winner With Jack Fowler and officially became a two-time love Island champion She's since crossed over into other cinematic universes like the challenge USA world championships Proving she's not just a lover girl. She's an actual competitor off screen she's a TV personality content creator host model and so much more sharing fashion Fitness tips beauty and soft girl entering her badass era Vives with a massive online community as justine joy She's been popping up in all star dating chaos of perfect match as well to justine. I won't see it all about this Okay, please make all the noise clap your hands screaming your car whatever you're doing right now For justine joy and Diba welcome and I'm too. I might see a lot of the podcast. Oh my god How can I have that? It's like my bio No, like that was amazing. Thank you Of course No, cuz like when I was researching so for season two in the podcast I'm bringing folks who I consider my friend By many ways people that I have a closer relationship to actually I didn't want just guests I feel like I know I'm through this industry. I've met some really cool people and you first of all when I met you I didn't even know you from Reality TV. I just knew you was like you're just cool. You're like this hot girl online I always see who's always smiling who's always fun and who has a personality You know what I mean? Because I feel like a lot of times online you feel like you can't just be yourself and have a personality And still be hot and funny and cool Yeah, and I think you do it so well. We're like you're so well rounded and I was like I would have to have you and I might To love the podcast cuz first of all how Did you decide to be an entertainment space and how have you liked it so far? It's so crazy cuz it kind of just like Happened so I was like working my nine to five and Turn COVID it was like 2020. Yeah, and then um I was such a big fan of like La Violin and like the show It was so big in the UK and at this time it was only like season one had been out and that was it so I was like Just got out of a relationship and my friends were like Apply like you should apply for the show. It's come to the US and I was like you know what? Hell yeah, so I just applied for the show and then I ended up getting on it and then after the show I didn't even know what to like do after you know what I mean I didn't know what like what management was like I didn't know what I was I thought I would kind of just go on the show come back to my normal life like genuinely Yeah, cuz like season one hadn't done you know anything crazy. So I just was like yeah This is just gonna be something I do to find love and then keep it pushing yeah So then after it kind of did so well My sister who's kind I don't know. I don't know how she knows so much But my younger sister Adele she was like make a YouTube channel like start like doing stuff doing content So then I kind of started to do it and then I was like this looks kind of fun. I enjoy this. I hated my nine to five I hated it. We all I hated it. So I was like, you know what? Let me just put my back and soul into it and like try something different And then you know, I always have my degree to fall back on or whatever else, you know, if it doesn't work out But I'm still here five years later. Yeah still being like hired for different things and I love it. So I was like It kind of just happened and I love it. I feel like you're also thriving and I absolutely love it too So real TV is not something African women do no so how does that happen? So talking about your dad isn't going to teach her a math teacher like so how is it like your family's done I've seen them in your tiktok's like how did that conversation even happen and then you even bikinis to girl And I just tell you I was terrified my if you watch my entire first season I I feel like I talk about my parents all the time I'm always like my mom's not going like me doing it. I can't do like I'm such like Held back and like I don't even want to say crude But like I was like I can't do too much, you know But even telling them that I was going to go on a TV show I was like because there's six of us right I have Five four sisters one brother and I was like guys This TV show is called a violent. I'm about to go on it. They want me to go on. How do I tell my mom and dad? How do I because it wasn't even how do I tell mom and down? It was how do I ask them? Yeah, you don't tell you asking for permission And my big old age I still couldn't just be like I'm going you know what I mean? So I had to just be like how do I how do I ask them And surprisingly weirdly they were like Okay, I think my dad didn't think I would actually do it. He was just like all right And then yeah, and then it like all happened and It went really well, and so he was like all right, I guess you can I guess it's fine that you do TV really Yeah, it was so cool. Yeah, there's definitely surprised me with how like yeah, okay, they were about it But It wasn't like a crazy, you know, you know, like you're doing crazy stuff I feel like that's also like a huge part of it. That's because I held back because you know Like they do like They do a lot of stuff, but I just was like always like And production ended up knowing that about me. They were like, okay, yeah We know she's the African girl You know, so yeah No, cuz like I always do reality TV and the one person just in my ears like I know my mother is gonna kill me And already I feel that so Doing that now I'm being in the industry as far as you can do you do you see a little more African girls in that space And also like do you identify as like American two or you work are you balancing with that? How does that work for you? Um, I mean I guess I guess I identified I've been I was born in Congo and then I lived in Kenya for four years also But I've been in America for like a majority of my life. Yeah Um, so yeah, I guess I would say like But I don't know. I feel like If you had the conversation with your mom, she might be like, hell yeah, cuz it's so real. No What's my please the other family's my mother. She will literally throw us up on the ground She is so dramatic, but also from Muslim. Are you Muslim? No, right? Yeah, but we're Muslim like heavy on the job wearing like You're not doing neither like I am like the black sheep of the family And I don't I've never done any I've never scratched the surface of this shit that I could potentially do Like I'm the black sheep of my family like they do know in any way want me to be an entertainment industry Okay, wait, because I remember seeing I didn't get to actually sit down and watch the full podcast I just saw no you just saw clips of you like talking about sexuality. Yeah, yeah girl Like they what's the tea the tea is my mother's like Still going crazy about it. She's yeah way see You're what what was what did I see? Cuz you would always click faded I'm saying anything. Oh, no, am I gay? I was like, what are you asking? No way I am boss. She doesn't know Really no like which is crazy cuz like I talk about it does she not watch this? Yeah, but I think it's like one of those things where she refuses to believe which is crazy too because I have followers who refuse to believe Like they're just like they're just like I have people who ask my friends. Is she actually serious is she joking like is she cuz I feel like I've never really spoken about it in my content I just I think you happen when I started the podcast where I brought it up once I was like what if I was gay and then I just let it be a thing just so people will realize that like I'm very like it's real But then that was it but people are very much convinced. I also I feel like for women It's different. I don't know how to explain it like they see Me as like my fluidistic child to like oh she might say that she is now where she's gonna end up with a guy Or she's just doing this or she's exploring like you know all girls like we all I was so impressed all we all kids girls We're like we don't really mean it. I think that's the lens that you should look at me and with my mom like Is this kind of denial of she's saying it but it can't be real when it's time she would Settle down again cuz that's what I don't want kids too, and she's like no you will get kids. I was like no, I'm telling I don't want to know you get you you have a child. So it's like well I don't know why she might just be a denial. I don't know what to explain it but really I feel like we function now We're not she's choosing to protect her piece is what I like to say she's choosing very much so to protect her piece because I think She knows she's just in denial. I think so cuz like you haven't straight up told me I have and she just like laughed in my face So you weren't even like I'm by or anything you were like no I like girls like what if I was I said what if I was gay I really like girls. I I want you to know that like as a potential like I just like me say Oh, I just can see she just moved on like you know what somebody's just like I don't think she's ready for that conversation I don't think anyone in my family is I think maybe an auntie auntie know I think auntie knows crazy one of my aunties might know but my brother knows maybe but so if that is so real But it's also very like I think every African child story You know what I mean especially queer kids like most of the time like you just It's a thing with a lot of Queer creators of queer people where you just have to exist like your family might be in denial your friends might be in denial Like you want to create us and then you're a well gay both can't show it but everybody kind of knows but also like You just pretend like you're not because you're gonna find a fake girlfriend a boyfriend or have a beard or lavender right like It's so deep. It's so interesting. But I think I'm just the one with the audacity is it does be like a fucking that's me in the family That's me but there's still certain things where I'm like, I don't know that I want to push the cat with too much because Let's not let them like kill us and stress yourself for that. Yeah. This your mom has been like Whether it's denial or what at least it's kind of out there and it's something that like she's not like What's shutting you for? No, I feel like she's opening you. No, she probably How do I explain this we've had a really Her her wanting to just I don't first of all is just my mom. So my dad isn't alive, right? So for my mom, it's like I either have my daughter or I lose her like that's it So I think for her it's like she doesn't support me. Just a fact like it's no. I don't hold it against her I love her so much. I also understand that like she's a 65-year-old African Muslim woman like I'm doing too much And I mean like in many ways like I'm like I am literally the cause of a lot of stress for her But I also respect that She's just choosing to still have me in her life like she might not support it. She might call me crying She might send me voice notes about how she I'm destroying her life where she's so sad and then she's a son But I don't today like after those I remember those one time we had a fight recently because I posted a bikini photo I went to put a corner with my friends. I just posted a Our podcast together and she sent me this formative voicing about how I want to kill her and she's going to die soon And I'm just the worst thing that happened to her And she can't wait until like I'm she's nothing anymore. African parents typical thing, right? Like and I remember just being like okay, okay, like what are you gonna do about it? And then two days later She's calling me. How are you baby? I love you. I mean, I'm like did you well you know just like please? Yes, today you were about to die And now you're over here like how am I am I okay my life like It's just something like we get to learn and I just I used to be so impacted by that like I used to be so affected But now I just realized that like I think it's also her way of there's no one for her to talk to It's not like she can go to therapy. It's not like she can on learn at 65 a lot of things as she has learned for 65 years So I give her grace. Yeah, so that's what we can give our parents is this grace Genuinely. Yeah, as long as I feel like I'm a good enough human and like my Actions and I think my behaviors are all like they can be condemned by humans because we're all human So I don't have to do like once she realizes that she'd be right. Right. That's a great thing to flip interview Not look at that You said something about African parents and being able to like come come out about certain things and just you know Have those uncomfortable conversations I was like wait a minute. I remember seeing so that I remember So how are you and I wanted to talk about it. So yeah, sorry It's no no you're fine because it definitely is is it's a learning curve for a lot of people But I think that's why I want to have people like us on the podcast like today. I had Which is actually cool. I had Drea knows best recording all day guys. I'm a Drea knows best. She's Nigerian And she's also like an outlier in her field and she's doing content Then I had more who's Where's more from Gambia? You know more Muhammad and Baye is an angel. He's an Congolese. No, he's not Congolese sending Galangambia sending Galangambia Well, it's like you have Africans now in this creative space and they're all doing really cool shit Like he's a guy who's with in the Sephora squad doing skincare. He's a straight man like and he does it like It's just it's interesting to see like us in these spaces that My parents would probably be right. What are you doing? No, it's giving look at us. Like look at us. Like who would have done it? Who would have done it? Not me guys. Not me I think I just get I'm really happy about where I am and I'm happy that like you know young girls get to see you like When I saw the reception you had on this season's like love Island games I was so like oh wow like there's a need for people to see Black women have fun, but also be like love, but also be powerful And we're gonna talk about that a little because I feel like You you walking those spaces so confident in yourself and I want to know if that's actually like are you confident or is it like You have to be confident to like get into the spaces you want to get into I think now I'm definitely genuinely That confident. I wasn't always like I think my first season of love Island definitely humbled me in so many ways like But after that and then after you continue to do more shows like you just And I'll tell you this like the biggest part is My supporters and like the audience like they really stay reminding me like hey, hey, you are that girl Listen keep that head up. Keep a push in and then like you get there like I've grown so much in the last five years Like in the way of like confidence and all the things so yeah, I wouldn't even say that now It's like just for TV like I don't even know how to kind of just put on Yeah, which is why I'm like Thank God for reality TV because they hire you to just be you, you know what I mean. Oh, that's true So it's like I've been my authentic self from the start and I feel like even my viewers have kind of seen me grow Yeah, in so many different ways because like girl, I was not always It's not always confident. It's like fake it to your makeup guys That's what most of us do and do so tell me about like What in your like for young people who are watching this for reality TV? Is this something that I think you say you enjoy it but for a lot of people They don't understand that concept. It's also very intense like fans are intense the experiences intense Especially from the love island perspective like you're putting your entire love life out there And you're an African woman and And for us love is something like you don't shout like you don't share your relationship status So you don't want someone to take it like how does how is that even that experience for you? Um I don't know I feel like I feel like yes, I do really enjoy it like I do love it so much because I think after the first season it was a little scary and also like I've been lucky enough which you know some people might not see it as luck because obviously the newer seasons are kind of popping off They're crazy But then it's crazy because like us from earlier seasons sometimes we're like dang like I wish we were kind of getting that like Viewer ship and notoriety that everybody's like all the new people are getting But then it's like it also comes with the other side of things that's like it's scary scary They be in your business So I just feel like I'm blessed to be where I'm at and like How everything happened for me because it is so much fun But I feel like I still have like my privacy. I still have like my moments to kind of just you know Like not everything is like my every move just being like watch because it's one thing when it's on TV But when you come off you want like You're really You know and it's like sometimes you're not getting it's crazy No, because I feel like I was watching this past season and actually before that question I was yapping with someone the other day and we're talking about black women and black men and white men and like The desirability politics of it all and you seem like the person who's dated across the spectrum And how like What is what's kind of your stance on that because you know when you go on these realized TV shows and you're black girl Like you're always in a box like you either have to wait for the black guy to come But justine is hot for every single person. So is it harder to date, you know, like outside of your race Is it something that you've never really thought about it just happened? What's that look like? You know, it's crazy. I actually love this question because I'd be wanting to talk about it sometimes Because sometimes when people meet me like even in this new season of games I had people being like I'm gonna say who but some people are like You only like white guys are like I've had people say that to me because either they've either only watched a season where like I ended up with the white I but I was like No, you don't know my TV industry. That's not true. But the one thing I will say is like You know, you know with African parents whatever. It's like that's the one thing they've always just been like Luxe like very lacks about you know what I mean. They're like If he's white if he's Whatever race he is like if you love him They said that to you. Yeah They've never had a problem because at the end of the day They're like if if whoever you're with loves and treats you the way that you deserve like whatever. I love your parents As far as race But like and so that's why it's just like it's that part has never been an issue So I've always just been like dating around yeah Now do I who I want to my ideal? Yeah, I'm sure I do type. Yeah, my ideal person to end up with and Mary would obviously be black because I just feel like I Want to raise my black babies like I'm like you I don't even want kids no more. Yeah, you spoke to me when I was 27 Up until maybe like 30 I was like I can't I don't it's not even in the cards for me But yes, like what I love to end up with a delicious chocolate man hell yeah, but at the same time I'm gonna end up with whoever loves and treats me the way that I deserve you know what I mean But you also like I feel like that is what love should end up being exactly It's more of like a I want to end up with someone who's good to me and who takes care of me and who shows up for me And sometimes especially I feel like real as TV simulates real life in a way that we all aren't ready for that conversation So like when you see You know the white guy coming down you immediately goes like he doesn't even look at the black woman It's like yeah, that's what most most dating pools are I used to black are coming in and she's open is like that's what usually has to happen in certain spaces By love they're like you you should kind of just shine that When you're your own person anything you attract anyone and any like you interact whatever you attract, right? And it's always the good kind because I love like this season With Tyree coming into the picture and like people just being like you're attracting who you want but you're also like You took ownership like it's like you're in charge of your love story I know a lot of women they tend to wait to be picked and I think you always shine a light on the fact that like You're also doing the choosing so how is that in your actual day the life outside of reality TV? Is it I usually like the one who's like I'm gonna shoot my shot Are you more of like a I'm a relaxing wait to see what does that look like? Well, I didn't say I feel like that's why I'm still single good You know she's your shot no because not not even I don't shoot my shot. I'm like I feel like I've learned that I'm picky like very very picky like I don't know I mean I've definitely I've shot my shot with like one or two people, but No other than that, I'm kind of just like If they come to me they come to me, you know, but I don't know it's just Dating's just I don't know dating in LA though. Is that a thing because I'm curious about that too Like I've heard a lot of like mixed Conversations about dating in LA and how like hard it can be just a day here in general It's hard to even just like meet people because yeah, if you think about it the only times I really go out or we go out or get to really have like Okay, let me not speak for everybody like my social life and outings is usually events like we have stuff right and in those like Areas or whatever in those circles. It's mostly women like you don't really meet guys. You don't know setting or whatever Um, so unless you like actually put in the effort to like date whether it's on apps or whatever or like Different environments where you can actually meet guys like you're not going to and then that's also my problem I'm such a homebody like I love my rent girl We pay a lot of rent we have to enjoy it Why it's so bad and it's like but you know what I am in the stage where I'm like okay No, I gotta start like going out there and I guess I should go off that because It's like crazy because a lot of the people that I've met have been like reality TV And then the people that I've met outside of reality TV like in the real world It's been just like I Yeah, because I'm not in the settings that I need to be to like Meet people. Yeah, that's so true. Okay, so there's a series that we're doing called this came up on my frp Where I sort of like scroll and I show you like something that it was posted on my frp But the homework that you were supposed to do was actually to scroll on your frp And then you bring up something but since just you couldn't do it I'm gonna put you in the spot Okay, okay, before you even do that, I'm gonna put you in the spot And I'm gonna have you open your phone and you're gonna scroll We're gonna close your eyes and scroll on tiktok for like I'm gonna count down and then the first thing that comes up We have to see it You ready wait, so I just close my eyes. Yeah, scroll on tiktok Let me And then we'll see what comes up in your frp. Are you ready? Okay, 10 9 Hey 6 5 4 3 2 1 stop Okay, what came up is anything crazy? No, no, this is the girl yapping I was like a black girl and white washed black girl. Oh, yeah I'm doing it again. Let's do it again Okay, ready go 3 4 5 stop Let's make pickle bagels Just see what is on your frp Everything it's like make up like that's why when you said that I was like you have to go search it Oh, I know the perfect thing we can do in this segment Have you seen the trend that's going on right now where it's like Non-sexual things that attract them attracted to about men Oh, we're gonna do that. No, but I love that. Okay. Let's do that. Okay, but I will say I did do my homework kind of Okay, tell me That lives rent free in my head on my tiktok for you page Arleo skip these videos Okay, I love clear hello and shit every single day every day. Yes Leo came up in a friends in the episode actually this is the second time he's come up I love it. He's saying I love you. You don't see his content. He's starting to know I see his content He's chaotic. He's so funny. I think I need what did he do recently? I don't know Yeah, he thought I think he had a like a falling out with drew a follow for something Really? I'm not calling that out. Am I saying some bullshit? Is that he? Well, I don't know the thing I forgot but remember the yeah, I feel like he said some crazy shit. No Yeah, I think that's only I think they're a cool because people were like calling her like oh, he's your mutual I'm like I can't believe like you let him get away with it And then he went on a break and he came back and everyone was like for going what he did But I forgot what he did was this while I was awake No, no, I was earlier this year, I think oh my god Well, I still I don't know what's forgotten. I was like I don't know It's also okay. I don't even think about that. Okay. Okay, so let me find it because I think any given Sunday posted So I want to get the exact prom so we can like figure it out Seven non-sexual things men do that I find attractive. Okay See I can do men too. We could do better. Okay. Okay. You could you want to go first? I should go first One non-sexual thing that woman would do that I would find attractive is clean nails for men and women Like when you have clean nails and I mean like short nails manicured Clear gel like you actually do not bite your nails. I think that's the sexiest thing really I see a man with like really clean nails and I say woman with really clean nails. Love it Cuz I feel like I'm so intentional like getting your nails done. I don't know. Is that straight? No, not at all Not at all. Okay. I feel like okay Non-sexual things that men do yeah Yeah Okay, I you know it's crazy when you follow somebody I love to see you know how at the bottom it'll say people's like repost Like it'll show you that people are repost I love to see what people are reposting Cuz it says so much about the person and like your heart and who you are and like what you like like Cuz I don't just be reposting like funny. No, I'd be very intentional about my reposting No, and not not even that it's like I'll literally like see somebody who's like like a little baby like Or like a mom or an old lady crossing the street. Oh my god. There's this guy There's this guy who like will pay for old people's groceries All it like he'll just go and like cut them off and like pay for their thing and they're just like all confused I'll cry And I repost those all the time No, but I just love to see like a man's repost I'm just like I want to know it's sexy when they like Have a good heart. You know You're reposting my tears. Yeah, I like that. Okay. Hmm. I Love I love this is so random. But I love someone who knows how to dress Like I'm and I mean like not like who wrote like I don't want to brag a morphine I want like a sleek like give me a tox give me a like give me a full set like I want to know like you styled You didn't just put out dress on you actually styled yourself like people those shoes and that shirt together And if it's white or cream Like the color is I love a man in like a white or cream like fit Like I don't know why I don't know why and it's not I don't this is not white cream That's one of my favorite thing like a cream like set up So she's like masculine women presenting like masculine presenting women when they have the cream set on On the two-piece set to Oh, wait, I need to see Because I love when it's all black The all black is sexy too. Let me see. Let me see where I could show you. We can't show the camera with her I need to see. Let me see. She has something Can't wait. I was no, but like I've so many are you dating like what's tea? I'm so many questions. I am Tell me everything. No, like I'm dating but like I don't I don't know if I'm ready for a four-relationship Yet, okay, I don't know I feel like I want to explore life and love and like I've been in like that era I don't know how to explain it. Let me see what the fuck is this. You're also really young still Come on 28 girl is that young really you think so yes You people anyone I pass this Thursday's always like oh, that's young like Back in the day when I was there. Yes, okay. I keep my internet is being so crazy Yeah, okay, when I find out straight later. Yeah, cuz I can't find it. Okay. That's a good one Dressing is very important. That's a big one for me. Yeah. I love dressing too. Um for me athletic Oh Cuz like if we're like if you can't like bounce like even if you haven't played that sport if you don't have some kind of coordination I'm like it is an egg. I need you to have some kind of like let us do something You know what I mean like you would even got to be big or nothing like just let me know you have coordination I feel that I'm trying to find the second show you because I think this is a cute one, but I can't I'm like who's it all right? Damn it. She doesn't have it up I'll show you later cuz I can't I'm gonna ask her to send it to me so cuz after this I have to show you cuz now I'm so cute. Okay. I know you see um I Non-sexual things. I like someone Okay, this is so random Good credit score. You know what hell yeah, and I'll be going. I mean I'm telling you If you do not have a good credit score or I got financial reason like please Please get your shit together because what happened was why like you know what I didn't pull the amics out right now like yes Baby show me Yeah, it's so funny cuz like when you hit a certain age or like I'm Kind of score. That's no that's when you get married. You can know I'm sick on that debt too like I don't want to play that like That's so weird. That's that's when's up happening especially in America So I had an accident time who went to pharmacy school and he was 350,000 dollars in debt So like so when he was courting and he was like very serious about dating he would literally be like Oh, just to let you know like this is how much debt you become carrying on to how much do you have so we know together together Baby, that's you why are you bringing me into this why am I why am I also what an interesting conversation He said by the way, this is what I was yeah, cuz like well a lot of people they have to say that now like because I think people Also, I don't know because usually the man like covers the financial That's crazy because I didn't even I would never even think to really ask like what Cuz when you get the way you get you're the next of can you get the debt yeah You get the debt your family holds on to it like if you owe more if you owe anything goes on to you Like yeah, dead America is crazy. That's why I have never even thought of that because I don't intend on marrying anybody I want you to make sure I'm not in debt are you crazy work hard and they enough for my stress me out for exactly what's okay So um, let me see what else can I think about okay? Yeah, one um Oh, I have one. Yeah, what teeth? Okay. Yeah, I'm not the thing, but I just I'm a sucker for like a good smile Good smile good teeth hygiene like if you have good teeth or like at least you take care of your teeth in some way So I feel like a lot of men just like just do dying passing like they don't really focus on the amount area They don't they really don't I feel like it's important to yeah, I've had like Luckily, I've been lucky enough to have people with like really good teeth good smiles because I love a good smile. I love a good smile Like it anywhere Um, I like when somebody is like really like family oriented. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, I guess I'm so like I'm so close with my family Yeah, I need to know that our Christmases are gonna be cute like you have like knees and nephews who are running up to you I'd be like oh Let me see how that would look my woman is shaking not happening. Right. It's always that's when it's like I don't really get along with my family or like I don't I'm like, huh? What did you do that? Cause I mean, yeah, sometimes it's like real ease of whatever. Yeah, but I'm like I want I want to know that like You actually care and I see what else do I have? You're making this real hard drive I like a good back Back muscles to I said I love a good back muscle. Yeah, you know, it's funny with women. I love a woman's like Yeah, like I love it. What do I call this part? The bicep. Yeah. Yeah, like oh, but uh Oh bicep in the 10th So what's your so your type is like studs? No, I'm open. Okay. Like you know, it's funny. I've always dated Femps because I'm considered the dominant fam And and then I started dating like masculine presenting like Stards and then I dated a stem ones and then I dated like Yeah, so I'm all over the place. Okay. I just I like whoever I like so you want your family biceps, too No, because my arms look great. So like you see what I mean like I like like I feel like as long as like you look like You don't have ski arms. I don't know what to explain. Okay. I want you to have some on you Like No, but I love a stud with like in a tank top with like biceps. They're actually like Like stuff enough cuz you know, she's a girl. It's like it's still soft. It's still like supple. It's not muscle No, I've been to like honestly a few like gay spots and like we do and stuff. Yeah, so some of the studs be looking girl Them light skin tall ass studs. Please Tom, which is if you see so many questions look cuz I feel like in LA the studs out here are just very Different I don't want to explain it. Yeah, I feel like LA LA Denver Austin they have a very specific style of stud really what kind of style is it? It's like it's like the light skin tall or like at least like moderate high dress Yeah, dress and tuck in like a little bun. Yeah, like you some jewelry. Maybe a few tattoos like yeah That kind of time the aunty nays of the world Do you know aunty nay jayla brine and jane um she has a daughter nila who's like a star No, I have to show you Oh, like wait, but also it's too fresh actually just a Just having a little key key. No, but if you move to LA you'd Oh, I don't think I've seen you've never seen her oh, no. Yeah, that's aunty nay all the girlies love her That's her twin sister Let me try to show you like a proper video of her Yeah, she's so cute I've never seen her really have you seen her sister so like no I wonder why FYPs are I'll tell you the one. I'll tell you who I know some of these family like at all No, what they have like two point four million followers No You know, I see a lot of like Nicole Boom guard boom guard. Oh, I love Nicole. I love Nicole. I love Nicole. I love the girl. I'm like Nicole Mal oh, I love mile. Yeah, yeah Stevie Stevie Sherry Amber. I know I'm very. Yeah Easy. I know easy. Yeah, like the circle West Coast is that well, yeah, that's what they're like. Sorry. They're not west coast. No, no, they're Texas. Okay I mine has not gone outside like We have you ever lived in LA like the LA area? Yes, I live here. No like family. No, no, no. Where's family from look? What do you guys say? Really? I go to I go to Jersey. Oh, that's what I'm saying like I Yes, I'm sure we're nowhere in Jersey. That's what off camera But like I'm trying to get a house in Jersey. I'm not sure when probably in like a year and a half Okay, but like that's so I want I want New York. I don't want New York anymore because I want space and I want a guard I love it there. I love it there. I Wish I could fall in love with Jersey and like actually move back as my family is there and like it would just be so nice there So you wouldn't you know, but you're kind of from there too. I love it so much. I see I can't do the cold I can't do that and that's why I get so sad because I love LA so much as far as like the weather and stuff But it's so lonely without my family. You know what I mean? Would you think of like nowhere else is cold I can't I can't I'm trying to think of somewhere else other than LA that Can't even take this cold. Yeah, I actually just did like a real today about like seasonal depression and like sadness How it just comes like clockwork like nothing could be going on in your life It's just the season season and like every time I go home too I feel because like the cold doesn't help and I'm somebody who like needs some like constant sunlight like you would hate London Girl, I know that's why I was like let me not fall over the UK man And if I do he's coming here because they get so sad like it was when I was in London They didn't have son for like two weeks. Yeah Yeah, what was I was like why am I so sad? I was like I haven't seen the sun like she's just she's not been around No, literally. It's so funny because when Tariq and them were here after the show They were literally saying they're like everybody here is so nice. I said what everyone are you crazy? They're like no y'all are so much nicer than people in London and He was like I think it's because we just don't get sunlight Like Like go to the fucking you can't be sad in LA because it's just like the sunny all the time And that's why I love every time I go home to so my one sister is in Harrisburg. Yeah Like her apartment her house It's just like dark like there's not but they don't see it and I'm just like I want to visit for days and weeks at a time But I can't because I need I need open window like if you came to my apartment It's like all just windows. Yeah, cuz I feel like you want the sun. I love you That's what I love it. I mean I lived was like floor-sealing windows. I want to wake up to the sun I want to go out to my balcony and be like okay. I can feel the energy of her and me This day is gonna be great because when I wake up in the weather LA has been raining so much and I'm like bro. I don't want this like No, but when you live here in its constant sunlight whatever you start to mr. rainy day Like you know when you like you miss the little cozy like I'm gonna watch a movie on this little You know you don't get a whole body But you're like I'll be cozy. You gotta talk on red wine. Yeah, so when you do girl when it rains I I make sure Oh, I love it. I like I'm in the east coast of my little movie like yeah No, you cosplay. I love the best. So the point of if I the this came up in my F.I.P. That's really worth it. It's also no, no, you're fine. No, I love it. This is exactly I feel like I feel like I want it am I too loud to be a space where like People just feel comfortable enough to just like yeah big key because like I know a lot of people will get we'll get to see you this comfortable Yeah, I mean, then like I really want to pride myself with like creating that space where we can just like have fun Yeah, whatever I was watching to be like oh, it was like just girls talking about shit real shit But we're just talking on the list. Yeah, so this came up with my F.I.P. was supposed to be like when you bring stuff I will now bring stuff from your F.I.P. for you to react to So I have a video of yours that I'm going to play What And I'm gonna start First of all this one I Yes Okay, so are you trying to get into acting? Girl tell me Um, I would love to get into acting, you know But I feel like in this industry a lot of the things that I've wanted to do that haven't like come to fruition Yeah Has been because it's like where do I start? You know what I mean I just don't even know like of course. There's like acting classes I think my first year off of Love Island. I took acting classes or whatever But it was still kind of like during COVID. Yeah, so I had to do those like Online suck girl. It's so different But then it's just also like there you have to like do the research and getting an agent and all these things like I just don't know like I didn't plan to be in the entertainment industry So I'm kind of just learning everything as I go even starting my podcast when I was hitting you up. I said girl You know what I mean, and like I know a lot of the time people are like oh, it's you know your team can help you your tea Whatever, but it's like sometimes they can't help you with all the things like some things you really have to do So like you're limited to what they know too So like if your team actually does don't know anything about podcasting and they scare you the wrong way They're not your stuff too, yeah, and it's like and then it's like sometimes the teams that you Manage minutes representation that you want to get yeah, it's like they only takes our people You know what I mean? So you gotta be somebody to get into those So it's like yeah, what I love to get into acting. Yes. Do I know where to start? No? I don't know I feel that too because I think whenever I think of your content too I think of stuff like this where you lip syncing videos, but you do us so well really yeah girl You do us so well like I feel like you embody the characters you're ever presenting or like you just you don't have acid That's what I would say and I feel like as always whenever I see creators do that I'm always like I wonder if you want to go into acting cuz I yeah people also look at that For a lot of agents they look at that and like as like your addition real too Like it's happening out. Yeah, so even though it's like keep doing those like no way Yeah, so it's like the girl is do that. It's crazy cuz I love doing those. Yeah, like you know, Noah the Like Noah sent it. I don't know if it sent to you. Noah Beck. Noah Beck So he started doing those lip syncs and like doing the word play in the scripts and stuff And that's what most of the agents also saw like oh this is like An acting real or this is your capability. There's like a few other like creators who Use those as they're like in like I think the emotion from this. Yeah, I didn't think that that would even like work as an acting real Cuz I do those all the time simply because I love them and I enjoy them and like it's funny that you said that like Cuz I'd be redoing them. I'm like I don't like the way I get that expression I would do it again because I just have so much fun with it. Yeah, but also it's like It's I feel like it's so different from acting. I I don't think I could do acting because um I'm a little like Every time I watch something I try to like picture myself as like somebody acting as that role Like I do this all the time in every movie. Yeah, and I'm just like how awkward is that like actors If you think about it have to be so awkward and uncomfortable That's what I'm saying is different when you're learning and I'm seeing this as someone who's also doing acting classes online But I did um Of love improv in person and the first thing I was also didn't think I was gonna get into this industry and now that I'm in it. I realized that They are like that because they started so young learning to be awkward and uncomfortable Like they've been in acting classes in film school where like they're out up there with the professor and like They're just like doing monologues and doing all of this things like my first improv class They were like get up and like move stupid and I was like I was so conscious of all the eyes on me Yeah, and that's all the people were just like all of that thing. I'm like how are you knowing better? It's like Stop. I've got even record watch you But I think that's the beauty of acting. I think I'm shifting my mind said too It's not me. I'm just putting my shoes into a character. Yeah, but even online because I think our jobs too is about us like our job He's like just seeing is just you. Yeah, so it's hard to then envision yourself being Anyone else or like trying to train to be anyone else I've been learning or unlearning that to be in this space too. You have to start Getting that alter ego getting the ability to like disassociate. Yeah, create and be a little But also it's like what is it? Is it called method acting? Yeah, when you like Actually just like a improv. What is that when you like Really like a body that person because I know I know some people that have like taken that a little too far and it oh my so Frankenstein's an example of that. So yeah Yeah, Joker was scary. Yeah, I could do I would do TV shows though I feel like that's what I want. I feel like I could I could enjoy like doing like the fun Blood girl on the summer like Abba Elementary coming in is like I feel like I could do like Romance. Yeah, you can do like I can see you at a Netflix Christmas holiday movie I can definitely Be like the princess who got in her head and now she has amnesia She wakes up for the prince in the park Just like even if it's like a romantic like you know what I mean like I I feel like I'd want to start with something that would feel a little bit easier like close to home and like I would pay easy Like pitch your dream script It would be maybe like Okay, if I can play like younger I'd be like in high school Like in that high school or college era yeah, where I'm just like trying to get the guys attention But I'm like the shy girl and then like I eventually like have you seen one tree hill? No For people who've seen one tree hill like Haley I feel like I could play a character like her She was like the tutor. Okay. She wasn't like popular or whatever and then she got like that the jock or whatever and then they Were a baby, but she would they got a baby together or whatever, but she was like that like sweet girl like You know, yeah, no, I don't know. I love a good. I love a good love story I'm gonna like romcoms are so fun. I feel like that's my favorite genre. Oh, yeah movies anyways or like a face You know, give me the other spectrum and okay, I have another video of yours Oh god, I feel like I just want to share some of the life experiences And when I'm at in my single hood I did a Q&A the other day and somebody had said what advice would you give to people who are still single in their late 20s or early 30s and the response that I posted must have really resonated with people because I got so many people Just feeling like they're in the same boat. So I wanted to talk about how what is because I think of course like with dating especially dating shows Being single can be seen as a lack Right, what is your sort of like response to that too Well, also, I'm loving that I'm seeing so much of like People did you see the sarts intro of the boyfriend thing? You know what I feel like the women were really coming into like Why are we even wanting to be with that? Yeah, I'm saying, but I love that it's it's not It I feel like it used to be looked at so much as a lack, but I feel like it's so common now and like Women are now being like well for what you know what I mean. Yeah, you know That's a true true right why are you still there exactly and it like and there's just so many other things Like I saw on my for you pages this other girl these girls on the podcast talking about How her friendships are so fulfilling that like her not even having a relationship right now. She's just like I don't really care like I'm so fulfilled in other ways and that just like made me feel like Yeah, like if you really find things that like fulfill you yeah, like of course everybody kind of wants a relationship You want that companionship and somebody but the fact that there's people out there who are like no, I'm fulfilled in so many other ways that I'm not seeing that as a lack because my life is so full. I'm like, you know what hell yeah, you know what I mean So yeah, I mean I don't know and I feel like for the first time And this is how I also felt going I posted that right before going into games for the first time I was so like content and like Happy in my single hood because usually I was like sad about it because I'd be like dang like Lord me again like when am I gonna meet my person you know what I mean Um, but then I got to the place where I just was like really focusing on um Like my bag. Yeah, my relationships with like my family and my friendships and stuff like that and then I finally felt like Yeah, I don't really like I'm not I don't feel like I was chasing it anymore like I just kind of was like Content with where I'm at and I'm happy and then I went on games And then I was sharing a bed with somebody every night and it brought me back to like wait a minute So I went to share about with him. He used to be to come home to Clocked out of that after the Then I snap back to my life and I came back and I'm like I'm fine, but yeah, no, I'm really in that stage where I'm like I'm good I feel docs. I feel like so I was in a three-year relationship and then when I left that relationship I was very much like a I want to focus on me and when I started thinking of wanting to find a partner or being with someone It was like early last year but shit changed My thought was it wasn't what I was lacking, but what I wanted to add on so it felt like I had my friends I had family I had money I had everything I could need and I remember I was thinking so I was like What do I want to add on to this fun life of mine? It's like oh romance would be fun That's how I thought about it. I was like it'll be fun to have some little a little romance Maybe I should start dating it'll be fun to see if I can enjoy this particular version of life So when I started thinking about it from that angle It was a lot easier for me to deal with heartbreak or Someone moving or taking a piss because I'm like oh then you're not the romance I wanted I don't want I don't want that let me want something else and I go after it I think a lot of women approach dating and single has I'm lacking something Rather than like I want to add this on because if you see you're adding something on that you have the control Over what enters your space Yeah, so it's just feeling like it's an out of control experience that you're just having to be thrown into That is so real because it also makes you like Like picky about who you also choose because it's like are you at like you can meet somebody But it's like are you adding to my life or are you kind of just like There they're we're like taking away even you know what I mean. So yeah, for sure. No, I agree. Okay. Just see that was just the intro Do you it's not crazy? I say you're joking. Yeah, like I'm telling you that was as Loki is the intro because they're even specific questions I still have to get into okay, so we're gonna put you in something I like to call the loud guest seat Okay, I'm just gonna ask you some questions and then you just have to tell me a few things and you've already answered a few of these So I'm not too worried But what is the pettiest reason that you've not done something recently? You don't tell me what it is But is there anything like you've not done recently and it was a for a petty reason like a show and event a brand deal whatever Oh Petty reason Well What was that smile I don't know if it's something I should say Wait, I'll believe it out as it like you don't say any names or anything too though Okay, you can't say it without the names because it'll be obvious. Yeah. Oh, okay. We'll find out we'll find a later Yeah I'll be petty the only one provoked. Yeah, genuinely otherwise. I'd be like, you know, I'm chill. Yeah, yeah, I feel that okay So what's something about the casting process that people would be shocked to know without getting both of us in trouble? Oh About the casting process Honestly, it's I feel like it's exactly what you think yeah, like You do your little interviews you send tapes whatever they call you they try to meet you in person Then you just do like your backgrounds you take a psych test. You do Medical tests. They check for all the STDs. Yeah, you know, and then if you pass that yeah, you go But they're you know, it's real. I do like that they take that very serious. You know, they make you take a psych test But I feel like if they make you take a second They still have some crazy ass people there isn't just all for like the fun of it because you can't have well-balanced people on the show No, because that's more like Some of the questions are like the psych tests are like have you ever tried to kill yourself or like have you tried to kill others? Psychy kind of thing and I certainly like a are you controlling are you manipulative or no, they want to say They want all of that See no for like safety at like those kind of yeah questions, okay On the scale of one to ten how real was your season and I want the unfiltered number one to ten Like how real do you feel like your experience was on games and then your first season Um What ten being real ten mean very real one being not real at all Ten yes, he does the thing they've they've always been real for me and like This is what I because I yes, there's editing whatever there's production But every time people come off and they're like oh, I got a bad edit or like I Producers told me to do this and maybe they tell people to do certain things but like for me. I think I remember one time Um on games the first time I think there was like production gave me a suggestion like hey you should like What about this like they weren't even like do this they were just like you should try this You should try this and I was like in my head I was like I know they're telling me this because either my storyline is a little too like here You know, they need me to have some but like I couldn't do it. I couldn't bring myself to be like Okay, yeah, let me just do it for the moment. Let me just do it for TV because I knew How would it be I'd be so unhappy and you would see through me that I'm acting Yeah, you know, I mean, I never want to be like acting in these spaces because it's like I don't know how to do that. Yeah So like yeah, they've always just been real for me, which is why the hard breaks have also been real because I'm like I was here. Do you feel like um For most real TV contestants that they're coming in like genuine or is it like a mixed bag? I don't think a lot of them are genuine anymore even And it was like when we first started out it felt like you were actually like I think I brought it from like a love Is bind is the perfect example like love is blind season one Like you could tell it was very uncomfortable to watch for me because I was like oh these are people who actually Signed up for this like now you see the season and you're like oh no These are people who just want this for the fame when they think they can get something crazy out of it Yeah, I think for sure there was a time where it was was very real for a lot of us and then but then it's like when you see How well people are doing people are like yeah, I want to go there to get what they're getting You know what I mean still like But I don't know who's to say I think that there are still genuine people who are like yeah, let me go find love I'm in that stage of my life, but You know, you always see it actually play out for what it was that it's just so the relationship So now girl What is one moment viewers think was a big deal in games that in real life was really nothing Something that viewers thought was a big deal for you Um, okay, I guess I'll talk about game season two since that was the most recent Um, that was just season two of games But I think it was like four or five. No, because I wanted this just a baby. That's true. Like it just did six, right? Yeah, that's crazy Uh, young still I would say Maybe the the whole tyriek being like I'm gonna manipulate her and then we've done per whatever I feel like yeah watching that it look crazy, you know, and even me like when I saw it after I was like damn you were really gonna do all that but like Knowing tyriek he really is just like Like he's a sweet guy, you know, like he's honest, but I don't know that he would have And I don't think that Toby would have really like let him do that even if he dumped me I would have been with somebody else So like I I feel like people felt for me in that moment because it's like what do you mean? Like you're gonna try to toy with me, but I actually don't know that He would have like actually yeah, we got very close in there. So it was like Cool, not that Is like I got you a back. I go her back. I bet I go his back Was a woman that felt really huge to you in like during games, but like it actually didn't make the edit Is there anything that might have happened? Yeah, so I was actually going through like family stuff going into games like personal things and it came up for me a lot While I was there and I kept like I was really in my head a lot I was like I wonder if my emotions with everything I'm going on at home are like translating um But yeah, no none of it Like oh thank god because it's like um, I don't know like there were just like certain moments like I think there's a scene um When Josh and Andrea are getting dumped and I'm bawling my eyes out and I was like oh my god This is not gonna make any sense like they're gonna be like oh she really really love Josh and Andrea and I did I was definitely devastated, but like um, I just was like emotional because of certain things and also it's like Yeah, it's just yeah, so certain things didn't make it, but I'm glad that they did What that being on TV sort of like dudes your sense of self like I've ever watched yourself back and think like oh This isn't me. Well, you feel like you've done like a good job of portraying yourself enough to like you are not looking crazy Because I feel like you have such a good edit and like most of the shows I've seen anyways and people love you And it feels like you're really authentic. So is that something that you prioritize going into stuff? Mm-hmm. So I actually don't watch any of my things back I find it so cringe to watch myself Like I'll only watch myself in like competition stuff like I've watched the challenge because I'm like damn Like I mean climb that mountain, but if it's like me having to sit and flirt or even watch myself make out I'm like I can't like it's it's so cringe. Yeah, but I feel like um I have like I said before I've watched myself like grow and like even if you watch me on season To of love Island to now. It's like I carry myself so differently, you know, and it's like I've definitely learned a lot of Um like confidence like I said before and I just like lost the question. Yeah, if I it's just basically like what um what did being on TV help with your sense itself Yeah, it's definitely given me my like confidence and like Because I start to realize I'm like I don't need the validation of other people Yeah, you know what I mean to like make me feel like yeah, I'm that girl. You know what? Yeah, and so yeah, that's I honestly like I feel like this was definitely part of me You know when sometimes in life you're like why did I go through that? Why did I do that? I really feel like this was really my story like I was meant to do reality TV because the growth that I've experienced in This like journey in this phase of my life. I don't think I would have gotten here any other way And maybe I would have but it would have taken such a longer route And so I'm just like yeah TV has told me so much like this industry has, you know I feel that so I think For me to rework the influencer industry space do you think Do you enjoy being like an influencer slash reality TV? So do you think of yourself as a reality TV star? Do you think of yourself as an influencer? What does that look like? Um both yeah, yeah, and I feel like What's your thing because I have such strong opinions we don't talk about that off camera After strong opinions about the influencer industry, but the influencer industry versus the reality TV industry What's the most chaotic let's use the word chaotic there which it which has been the most chaotic for you Um, I think in the influencer space it's like Trying to just like keep a float almost, you know, because it's like people don't realize it's like yeah It looks all like oh glamorous or whatever else, but like you still got to pay your bills And it's like you got to rely on that engagement and like consistency and like all these things and it's like it's becoming such a Uh What's the word like? Almost everybody's doing it. You know what I mean? So rat racing, but yeah exactly so it's like you're still you're like trying to stay relevant trying to keep those bills paid You know what I mean, and so it's like Yeah, I think I think with influencing it's like Figuring out what your long-term goal is so that you have that like passive income. So you're not constantly like Oh my god, what's next? What's next? Yeah, exactly um And with reality TV it's like That's it's almost even scarier because I've been lucky enough to kind of still Got into do several shows since my first season and I know that there's certain people who did like their first love Island season and like that's been it you know, so it's like And it's crazy because sometimes I'm like I'm not even that personality that gives like I'm gonna do this. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm really not that so like sometimes it's surprised me that like Who would be like hey girl Please, but it's like but that's the beauty of reality TV is that they do need every personality. They do need somebody That's why it's like just be yourself Because they need a way they're gonna find you're gonna find something for you too. I feel that How do you protect your mental health then like during like During or after the show even like how you able to still say saying because like you hear stories sometimes about how crazy Fans are and I feel like maybe it's good that you may be on the first seasons now because I can't imagine the Health of the folks right now like is insane So like how do you protect yourself from that space too? I think I learned this after the first season of love Island the very first one because even though I didn't really get much hate Caleb did okay for every whatever but like I didn't that was the first time I actually first-hand like saw I was like oh this can be like really sears And yes, I was heartbroken. I was sad about the whole thing but you know And then also like after games It's just it's so much like when you see the people close to you getting like death threats and things like that It's like damn like this is a little too far. Yeah, like I'm sad and I'm hurt, but also it's like Deathress is crazy. Yeah, you know um So yeah, I just so for me and And I've gotten like a few things like you know people would be like girl Why don't hair look like that like so but nothing like too crazy, but there are like some people who take it too far Yeah, and luckily I've been I've been lucky enough to have a majority of it be positive and just very little be negative But in those negative moments when it's your first time on TV and you're just like that hits you bro like you could get like Too bad comments and like 98 amazing comments. Yeah, and those two comments will eat away at your soul whole soul Yeah, you're like you're like how did I just have been eats away at you for so long, but Um after that first season so like my family and I I don't look at stuff so like if there's anything I need to know my sisters will tell me. Yeah Otherwise, they'll just like read everything or whatever and like It's a love though. Yeah, so like I don't I just don't even like if there's ever anything but I never see it Yeah, because they like just kind of filter it for me I also love I feel like you have a good community and family like that was always help you stay grounded Yeah, it's really important. I also and you could you could get in alive sometimes at this space I just block it out girl. Yeah, you have to protect your piece. You do Was one misconception then about like fans have about you that look you like hurts your feelings. Is there any? I think they're pretty spot-off They feel like they know me pretty well like um That hurts me. You really remind me so much of like what you see is what you get Yeah, I feel like that's so hard sometime in like this industry that we're in and that's not one of you on the pod Because I'm like you really are exactly what you say you are like it's not there's not a facade is just like you can't helpable be you I think that's something worth protecting like just making sure like you stay who you are Because like people will try to change you, but you're gonna get so sad when you know who you are because people could tell when you're Faking it and you definitely do not fake it. I can I can tell you all that for sure. Yeah Thank you girl. I can't lose myself Which is why I try to like go home a lot Y'all grow me Remind me who I am period Because it's so easy to get lost in the sauce. Yeah, it just yeah So how did being unread to TV then change how people date you Because like for the most part like how is dating now because we're just talking about like dating But like not they feel like they've seen you or they know how you maybe day on TV Is that been weirder? Is that been harder? Are you getting approached more people scared like what is that? So you know what I thought after like going on TV that it'd be easier right? Yeah, I'm like okay people will know me like maybe more people girl It's gotten harder and I have this conversation with so many of my friends from like reality TV Also, they were like it was easier to date before we got on TV. Oh, yeah And I don't know why like I think my one friend is like yeah, I think like She was talking about like athletes and stuff like that always slid in her DMs and stuff when she was kind of like Not nobody but like not as known as she is and then now that she's been on reality TV. No, nothing So I feel like maybe they look for a certain kind of girl that's not like Out there maybe you're not seeing Yeah, so it is like harder like I said, but Yeah, I mean Got to do you know what but you I am and I have no shame saying that I am taking advantage of these apps I'm gonna ride yeah, how is raya That's also a little dry. Yeah, but yeah, but but at least I know that like there's like good prospects on there like because I Don't know I like I was on hinge like a couple years ago. I'm just scary and somebody was like Oh my god, justine from love Island and instantly I said on match when I tell you the I tried dating apps for like two days maybe a day and When I started getting people sending me messages on Instagram like here's a screenshot of your profile Hey girl, I just saw you in this. I hope this is yours really caffeine is it really you please let me know Blocks you and the app like Because why does it also feel like they're shaming me Why are you pointing this out like just be down me like if it's like don't slide lie to me that you even see it You don't know it's me let me pretend I'm sure like oh my god. Hi. I'm so if you pretend like you don't know it's me Right don't tell me up front. Oh already. Oh my god. I've always wanted to talk to you Cuz that's the thing. It's like I'm not here saying. I'm like an a-list celebrity I'm not saying any Just Watch the space right manifest manifest, but like, you know, it's just don't make it uncomfortable like, you know, and then it makes you question like What are your intentions like I'm just like here for that. Yeah, yeah, it's strange very Oh, did you lose any friendships because of how things are portrayed on screen ever? Not portrayed on screen necessarily because it's how it happened But I will say love Island games the first season was really tough because I had um a moment where I had to vote out a close friend Um, and that was really hard, but he and I actually got closer Really yeah, and he's just like one of my best friends and he just like understood like he was hurt in the moment Obviously like it's hard when you're in there and you're in that environment. You're like dang But like he just was like, you know, there could only be one winner like whenever he understood the game and stuff like that, but There were other people who weren't even involved who ended up feeling a way about it, and I was like But if he doesn't care. What are you care? Why do you care? Yeah, so I felt like that in itself kind of told me what I needed to know about those people Because I'm like what do you mean like No, you bring it up for what you've said about that for you to be like, you know what I mean like that has nothing to do with our friends I don't know, but yeah, okay, I love that okay last question What's the long game for you then if we're out of the TV is like the door? What is something that like you're really hoping to like build Is it acting because I know you mentioned that a little bit I If I could say The Lord humble because you give R&B star real bad. I'm just saying you really do Girl, did you see what I showed you give R&B star? Yeah, nothing more, but the Lord said you don't get a voice You don't get a singing voice. No, he humbled me with the singing voice that I have I would love that um no my I would love to get into hosting like I would love to like host A reality show or something like I would love that, you know as somebody who's been in it Yeah, many times, you know what I mean? I would love to like I want to put it out there put it out there Yeah, as you hear that you know Like and then also to every time I just like like my a gem in aerodynamics every time I see them Yeah, my cleaning it up every day. I'm taking a take a note. No, I ran out of this. I don't know those Yeah, rabbit queen like might your hosting something looking that good Like her team just is like so and like even when she's just like her face expressions I mean honestly that's Loki like acting because she really has to be in the moment like you know And then it's like cut. She's like fixing her hair make up back into it. She's like so You're getting eliminated tonight. How does that make you feel? You know what I mean? She be honest You know what I mean Okay, so we're gonna get into something I like to call too loud or not loud enough She's a game Where I'm gonna share some hot takes about real estateian fame and you have to rank things by saying too loud Meaning you agree very loudly Not loud enough you can go harder like maybe you're doing a lot. You disagree or cringe You can just say I disagree or you don't have to say the the too loud and not a lot of nothing No, I'm gonna say it if I say so for example real estate the actually exploits people more than it helps them Is that do you agree with that? Do you not? Are you in the middle or do you disagree? I disagree Oh tell me more. I feel like everybody kind of goes into it knowing what they're getting into and it's like Like they don't though like girl cuz like you wouldn't be doing you know what I mean people are almost going there to be exploited You know the one of it they want the cloud so it's like you know what you're signing up for so I don't Blame I'm not like reality TV is doing it to you. I think you're like you know what you're signing up for yeah I feel like I understand if like you underestimated maybe the like no one like maybe you go for like The circle or something, right? You don't expect it to blow up and then it blows up and you're like Oh, maybe I thought it was a small show and now it's a bigger deal Maybe I can see that for the moment. I especially would love shows. I'm like you've seen people on these shows Yeah, when you go and come back and you're like oh, I didn't think that was gonna happen I'm like you did like they probably actually there are questions. They told you exactly what you're doing they told you what you were walking like you know You know what you were doing and honestly, they're not changing your neck to something like it's not the end of the world. Yeah, I feel that viewers care more about drama than your mental health I agree. Yeah Too loud too loud Yeah, if my sister's sexuality TV money is not as good as the internet thinks it is No, I'm like in the little really I really feel like well, I feel like I want to spread this up I feel influencer money is good. I don't think real estate TV money is as good as influencer money And let me explain what I mean by that like real estate is in like not the deals you get after reality TV Well actually going on the show specifically because there's some creators who say they go and reality TV and like they don't have any offers after so they have to go back to normal see Versus like people who are able to then build on their reality TV fame to get brand deals and to become bigger Um, I disagree because I think the first season that everybody does yeah, yes, and you're paid very very little to be there Yeah, but after you've kind of like done if you like I'll say this there's certain shows that I've said yes to you for the check Got you like I'm not just there because I'm like, oh, let me try Let me get heartbroken one more time, you know, they mean like the check is good. Yeah, you know, so I have to disagree Okay, period see look at that Um every reality TV show needs at least one true villain to be iconic Yes, yeah, for sure. I feel like that's every movie loud. Yeah, yeah Power social relationships are out of control right now Yes, yeah, yeah, girl. It's been we just yeah, we're out to TV's low key free therapy for the audience not the cast I don't even say it's free because here's the thing like there's Yeah, let me be careful Um Free therapy for the audience yeah more than the cast No, I feel like I disagree. Okay. Yeah, so I feel like for for us anyway in like love Island or whatever So we do check ins every single night with production like we talk through everything There's even moments where we see psych and we'll just go sit for hours and talk so it's like to me the show does feel like free therapy Because you're dating and also getting to talk to somebody about it every day and like somebody a specialist But also production who's kind of seeing both sides and then your friends who are also in it So it's like it really is like therapy for you It feels like you're in a guided space Yeah, because in the real world you don't know what's happening in that person's head You just got to wait for it Like pray you can actually trust it literally yeah on the same page Yeah, I feel that. Oh fans feel entitled to know everything about your life once you're on TV too loud Yeah, that's right In a way, I know on TV they want to know everything. Yeah, I can't even imagine like I have seen like the lack of Sort of like awareness of like people are humans too Thing is a level of this association that happens when people go and reality TV Because it feels like people just expect you to then be like their little toy this dance and like okay What are you gonna do next? Okay, do them like those are human beings like their emotions Yes, you got to watch them fall in love, but You got to watch it doesn't mean you have every rights. Yeah, I will say I've been lucky enough where it's like I don't know maybe maybe from being on 2020 my audience is a little bit more like mature. Yeah, and grown So I've never had the like the ones that are like You owe us this It's never been that but I know that there have been some people that like the young How dare you we supported you we how dare you not tell us the status of did it all I said I'm heartbroken You know so yeah, oh Relative TV has done more for diversity on screen than a lot of movies Hell yes Especially the violin and I will say it's like that's the one thing I love and appreciate about the US franchise Because the diversity and the fact that we've even had several like I know I was the first But several black winners after that. Yeah, I still don't think UK has had one Girl and they've been doing this longer than us. Yeah. Yeah, so UK they didn't see no so it's crazy When I went out there I was like oh, I understand now really they do not like black people really like the British do not like black people like UK like The men are so conditioned to want to white women That's a thing like you and you can women are like they're so like stunning like I'm telling you like they're different And you want to see I said I'm so terrible stable like even the makeup game is only one like I'm telling like I've been saying this all time. I'm like I want to learn how to do my makeup I know I have bad they don't have bad skin because you don't have bad skin when you don't have the sun Like because the sun makes you feel that you get acne But they have like dull weather so they're like all this is so smooth and it's so shiny and they take care of themselves And they smell good and like they are really women laser focus. They do not and they do not engage your black women I've seen their first hand like and I keep saying I'm like I want to go to the UK No, they speak so badly about their women and like well I'm not generalizing but it feels like 80% of them are mostly like that And it's just been very unfortunate to see because I know those women are gorgeous like those girls on them like damn You saw her grow Let me learn how to do my life Don't piss me off my life will be changed forever forever Oh, once you've been on TV normal dating is basically over Yeah, yeah Oh, and last one the audience forgives men are relatively TV way faster than women I'd have to disagree really yeah Because for me and my experience in what I've seen off of the violin they are quick to cancel these men and I love it I love it. It's also like what American women like American people don't play like they don't If you're a woman in America, you're done and I love that and like honestly sometimes like my My friends or my family would be like just see you don't want to like speak your truth I said no, they got me regardless I love it when Tyreek was coming on the US version because they like I don't think America is ready If you fuck this up people are gonna curse you. I gotta do and then I realized I was like no like America women or America people just they know and they know how to make people behave in the situation Especially the women they ride for you and I saw that in the comments too So I love no, I also love you fan. So like they do they wrote for you hard like what and that's what I love About the US fanbases like they ride for their black women. Yeah, it's not just me It's like the women the black women that have come after me and stuff like that. It's like it's so beautiful They don't play I love it. It's so beautiful. Okay, all right So we are going to do one my favorite sections here, which is called am I too loud? Where are you gonna have yourself up? Okay, so you would look directly into the camera and then you would People can do like am I too loud if I say and then you can say like I'm the best I was the first route to TV star and love and I killed it for this reason I'm a lover girl that like hype yourself up You can say full sentences. You can say it with sentence. You can do whatever you want Someone said I might slide if I say I'm the next generation Kanye West like shit like that So like just speak life into yourself. That's all I want. That's why I like the segment to be wait. I love this I love this. Okay Um, I mean how many can I do as many as you want girl go crazy. No, cuz I even got to like think um Okay um Am I too loud if I say that I've paved the way for our new girlies Now people say that to me all the time and I'm just like it honestly makes me like just like it makes my heart Okay, I love the people that even still remember me first time I'm back in the day. Oh, what to forget, please Um Am I too loud If I say that I'm going to be the next Ariana Maddox and my adjama Lock it the next black area And my adjama okay I want to put that out. Yes, dude, dude, dude. I love that. Yeah, I love this Thank you so much for coming into my two-law the podcast. Of course. Thank you for having the absension is over That was so fidgety this girl Like why don't I do that movie? You know, it's crazy every time I got to do the podcast I move so much and I always feel bad for the guest because usually the guest is like sitting and they're like this listening to me So why are you moving? I was like oh thank god. No, it's fine no better because even on my own I wear like leggings because I know how sitting down is just not cute in jeans, but like it looks cute I look like somebody But you killed it here guys. How could how could people find you if they're looking for you? Um, I just enjoy on tiktok instagram y'all I'm recently on snapchat. I've been having a time on snapchat Justine joined diva on snapchat Come to podcast now. I have a podcast called just saying On my YouTube channel Yeah, oh, I love it Pot fam. Thank you guys so much for listening to my slot the podcast I love you guys very much don't forget to like comment and subscribe Leave me a rating and Spotify I heart radio apple YouTube all of it And I'll see you guys in the next video. Bye