MY UNPOPULAR OPINIONS ON THE INTERNET'S HOTTEST TOPICS OF THE WEEK | EP 03 - Ep 03

So if you like gossip, if you like tea, if you like to be nosy, this episode is for you because I can be loud. That's why I shaved my hair. I don't have the time of patience. I don't like hair, so I'm not gonna put it. But also, this again is an act of like radical acceptance. I know a lot of us also have. No, but while we're fighting to be in a space that doesn't want us there in the first place, I think they do. They don't. We're constantly chasing the recognition of ****. They don't give a fine fudge. I have two perspectives to give about raising kids. I do not have kids. I don't know if I want kids. Mom, if you're watching this, they never say don't do that. It's just don't get hurt. And if you get hurt, now you're crying. That's the difference in how you're raised as a young kid where I'm from. You're only comparing the fact that you might be embarrassed because you're a poor. I hate about cancel culture is we don't let people make mistakes within our community. We built you up so we're going to take you down. And I hate that. Are you walking in? No, I'm just sitting. I'm going to start out. Yes. We can do the same thing twice, Donald. Don't have to walk in every time. Oh my god. Are you recording already? You can't show people that I'm aggressive. Oh my god. Hey guys. Welcome to Amai Too Loud. The podcast. Hey guys. Welcome back to Amai Too Loud. It's Sophie. AKA the Audit. You guys, I am so excited for this episode because let me tell you, there's so much going on on the FYP right now as I'm recording this is currently the first week in October. And I feel like I'm going to be getting this podcast around the last week in October. And that is important to me because I want you to know that this particular type or style of episode is going to be coming out every third episode. So you're going to count like one, two, three, every third episode. What is that? Prime numbers? Every prime number basically. Is that that? Is that right? Is that prime number? Three? No, it's not. Wait, wait, wait. Every multiple of three. Yes. That's right. I know math folds, okay? Every multiple of three, the episode is going to be like a hot test topic. Oh my god, I don't want to intro like that. Let me do it this way. Hey guys. Basically, welcome to Sophie's Audit topics of the week. You know what I get? You get what I mean? Like hot test, but audest. Don't worry, I'm going to make a mistake. I'm going to try to find a really cool intro for this one. But basically it's like the audits of the week that we're going to find on my FYP. And we're going to be breaking them out, talking about them, giving you all the tea. Because let me tell you guys something. One of the biggest things I'm realizing now is nobody has the group chat anymore. People don't have friends. I don't know what happened after the pandemic. What we started getting so comfortable with like think pieces online, right? Where like you see something happen online. And some is just go to the group chat to discuss it. You're going online, you're doing thing piece on thing piece. And so usually the same thing piece that's just loud and wrong. I'm going to write on thing piece two because I like to join the crowd. Well this time we're going to be doing it educatively. Okay, we're going to be doing it fun. And an exciting way because I also want to be a part of the discuss. No, that's not right. This course. Is that right? Is that the word? I want to be a part of the discourse. What we basically talk about all the fun things happening online. Because I am a chronic scroller. However, I'm going to be introducing you guys to one of the biggest chronic scrollers in the world. I mean, this person has no life. Nothing going for them. They typically just sit at home and scroll in their phone 24-7. So when I was trying to think of the person who was going to be able to like give me all the tea, I thought of my favorite random creative Donald. And if you're not watching the video right now, Donald is sitting right behind the camera and he's ready with all the questions or all the tea that he's going to tell me or like we're just going to be ranting about. And that's pretty much this episode. So if you like gossip, if you like tea, if you like to be nosy, this episode is for you. Because I can be loud when it comes to tea. My friends know, like I see something online. I'm running. So FaceTime to call the girls and give them all the rundown what's going on. So now you're my girls. You're my guys. You're my guys. You're everyone in between. And we're going to be spilling all the hot sash on Sophie's honest topics of the week. All right, Donald. Give it to me. What are we talking about first? And I also have my iPads, you guys. And I was going to like get me, you know, Donald is like doing some fancy tech work where he like mirror something and it comes on here. It's all a lot. But that's why he's the, you know, scrawler, recorder, all of that. Okay. Are we starting? Yeah. I'm so excited. Okay, okay, okay. What's the first tea? So a lot of these topics. Okay. I just have to say, I don't agree with any of them. Why? I agree with some. You shouldn't be agree with anything. We shouldn't be giving this. I don't agree with you. This is the way you just started. So first one is black hair is manageable. Is there a particular video for you? So you just, you just, are you making up like line? I'm not. Okay. It's coming to your, to your, to your screen right now. I have a bit of my nip. Sorry, y'all. If you're watching on, if you're not, if you're listening. One thing I really, oh, I love that. I can hear it. Okay. Oh my god, this is so fancy. You guys, the tech. Black hair is manageable. Black hair is easy to do. We just want our hair to do things that it's not supposed to do. Oh. It's never going to slip all the way down. It's always going to frizz back up because that's just how our hair is. Especially if you have 4C hair or just thick eyes hair, it's just not going to do what you see other people's hair do. Yeah. Black people always feel like our hair got to be done. It's just done. Yeah. This is my bed head and I just put it in one. I put some edge control on but I'm working on just not wearing edge control period. But this is the stage where I'm at, okay? Slick, they're unslick. I know that in an hour or two and it's 40 heat, these are going to be gone. But that's okay because it's my natural hair state. Okay. Honestly, yes. I agree with that. Because here's the thing, y'all, when I cut my hair first, first of all, when I had hair, which was, feels like a long time ago when I was like 2017, it was a lot of my hair. When I had hair, my hair was always in a bun. Like I just pulled in a bun. I never like did the whole maneuver slip down anything. But also, I'm African and where we come from, when your hair isn't, I think my period is coming. I just started cramping. No, because if you're listening to this, you guys, like, you know what? Like, okay, okay. Oh my god, you guys. I really think my period is coming. I'm going to go put a tampon in. I'll be right back. KKBRB. Sheds are in the mic. This fucking bitch, I knew she was coming. So let's just do a pattern right now. Because you just never know, okay? You just never fucking know. And done all, if you're listening to this and you listen to me pee and you don't cut the fucking mic off for this, I will hunt you down. Okay. I just got my period. And the girl is who are listening, who get their periods know, that usually you're fine, whatever. And you just feel that cramp, that specific type of cramp. Now, the moment you feel it, you just know and you're booking it to the bathroom. I don't know. Okay, shut up. That's what just happened to me right now. I literally felt like, oh, crap, no. And yes, she's here. The girl's here. Okay. Period. Anyways. Um. Yeah, that's not true. I am hilarious. Okay. What's moving on to the hair thing? Okay, you guys. That would just shook me a little because she's like four days early. And she'd be pissing me off because why is she so early? She did not need to be this early. Anyways, okay. Back to the story. So when I, it was what I'm African, right? And back home, we tend to do our hair, like natural, right? You're using wool, yeah, using, um, like I do it all back and base. Like you're actually placing the hair. I feel like there's not a lot of creating the hair to fit a certain aesthetic, which is like the Western idea, like straightening your hair, stuff like that, unless it's relaxed. And even then, you're putting it, you're only just relaxing, it's putting a bun and stuff like that too. We tend to just enjoy our hair and like the natural stay. And people talk about how black hair is hard to maintain. I don't think it's hard. I think it's just, it's just not as easy as it's brushing it through because you have curls. And curls need to be curled, not straight. And that's the whole point of having curls. So tell me, as a guy, okay, right? First of all, anything you're supposed to say with hair for women's hair as a guy, I'm worried. I don't know if, I'm like black hair, like as a guy, like the woman's hair is the same. It's not. Well, like you see this, my beard. Yeah. It was annoying thing as ever. Yes. It looks great. It does. Okay. If you think that, it looks great, but it's so annoying. And if, that's what you have to do with, yeah, I think it's also annoying because I watch my girlfriend watch her like spend time like doing that. No, but she has, she has for a three-way hair. So that's even, that's what you just said right now. Okay. Good hair versus like, not good hair. Your hair, your hair is hair. So there's no good or bad hair. However, people tend to attribute the idea of good hair as like, looser curls. So the big fluffy curls, usually that's with like mixed race curls or like, you know, you just have, you have some, you'll say you have some black and some Indian in you. So your hair is smoother, it's usually longer. And then the idea of bad hair is like, foresee hair that you're combing on your comb break. I didn't get the gauge. Is this like a, it's like a curl pattern. Basically, so it's a curl pattern they like look at. So if you have tighter, tighter curls that hold in and tie in the shrink, the shrinkage thing, that's usually what they attribute to like, bad hair unfortunately, which is not the case. It's just hair. It's the afro. And when we see our ancestors and folks that are grandparents when they rock their hair, it was usually like, play to down, always like, you know, full and it was more of a maintenance of keeping it curled in and straight and well taken care of. I don't think we do that anymore. I wish I'd built this trend during the summer where the girlies would like braid their hair and like the pattern and the circles. And I think that was like the, bet I loved it. I love seeing it. It ran on me of like the Yoruba aunties and the old days when they would like, do the different styles of Shuku on bass and stuff like that too. But yeah, that's pretty much my deal. And I think I also do really think forcing here is hard to maintain. Honestly, it is hard to maintain because you're having to do a lot more to maintain the moisture and the texture and stuff. However, that's where the tools that we don't use anywhere come in, right? Where you're placing your hair, where you're breeding it down, where you're taking care of it, you're like covering it with, you know, sat in to go to bed, your pillowcase, all that stuff too. It's high maintenance, but that's why it looks good. Yeah, those are my thoughts on it. It's bad because it's high maintenance. No, I think we'll just think it's back as it's not white. Because you know how the attributes like beauty to like the Western ideas, right? Before, like beauty was like the blonde white girl. And now because of a lot of intermingling happening, beauty has changed from like the blonde white girl to the mixed race girl, right? Like you see Zendaya is a perfect example, right? Curly hair, flowy hair, that's what people attribute now. Like I think Wigs then used to all be like wavy and straight. Now the girl is love a big curly wig. You know what I mean? Like the coil patterns are different now. So people always say like in 2050 or so, human in humanity would be a lot more mixed race than simply one race now because of the intermingling happening. I'm so smart. So I have some comments that are interesting. Oh, oh my god, this is what we're doing in the episode. Oh, I love this. Okay, let's go. Oh, no, this is my favorite episode. First comments, you can see. Hmm, technology. Okay. Okay, so she said, yes, it's so much maintenance. Because we tried to make it presentable. That's true though. Because the idea with like, for example, when I have my afro, if I had my afro out, I was seen as like messy. Because that's not, you don't typically see that in like, gollas or events. Like you don't wear your afro out. Because the scene is not, how was it not demeanor? Not like put together. Like I'm banded. Yeah, it seems very unmanaged. There we go. It's pretty, it still is loud, right? Compared to when like, it's slicked back. Because I think when you present yourself, especially as a black woman with your afro, it's startling, right? Because we covered it for so long. That contrast can be very abrasive so that the people who are trying to be presentable too, which is unfortunate, right? Because you should be able to be accepted as you are. And I think we're coming to the time when that afro shouldn't be looked at as unmanaged or as too loud or not clean or all that stuff, but just existing as is. I want to see more black women go to events, go to like, black tie dinners, be at the White House with a full afro. Imagine if Michelle Obama, you remember when she talked about it when she was talking about hair polices within the White House where she never wore braids until she left the White House. And that woman had braids and everyone is like, oh, Michelle, like the black woman went crazy because I wish she had the courage to do that in the White House, but we know how much flax should have gotten for something like that. Yeah, it's like when Obama wore the suit. The suit, the tan suit, yeah. It's just like politics, right? It's like presentability, how acceptable are you going to be to the White Gays, basically? So the next one, I thought my hair was so difficult for so long, but when I was trying to make it white hair, yes, yes, yes, it really is. Like, so the thing says, I thought my hair was so difficult for so long, but no, I was just trying to make it white hair. That's really what it is. Like you're trying to make this beautiful thing, that's supposed to be just you and original to you. You're trying to make it fit the narrative of like Western ideas and stuff like that. When it doesn't need to be, we deserve to exist if we as our hair is and manage it. But again, that is also time-consuming is a lot of work. So I respect people's choices. If you don't have the time to sit down for, because wash days for a lot of women is a full day. Like, I'm telling you, spending six to eight hours sitting down, detangling, cleaning up, doing all this stuff, you're spending money, you're spending time, it is exhausting to take care. So I understand and respect the people who just do, like, I can't deal with this right now. I respect that. I understand that everyone's choices their own. But again, the same thing is just, I just would rather we not look at that and compare it to like whiteness in that way. Baby, I don't care, but what no one say, I am a forcey girl yet and it's a lot of work. Regardless of whether you're natural or not, to maintain healthy and natural hair is not easy, but the results are amazing. And that's the thing that's common. And then KKKK Carmen says it is easy. It is not easy girl. It is not, please, please, it is not. We can't lie to ourselves and say like our hair is easy. I think it's just different, right? But again, that different is because we're comparing it to white hair, right? Because the ease is, I'm only thinking it's hard because I'm comparing it to what I've seen. A white girl can't wake up brush her hair and it's fine. If I had hair, I can't wake up and just brush my hair. I have to do steps to make it there. But why is my ease or difficulty in comparison to that rather than in comparison to just myself? It just is our hair, it's just our hair and no one else's. So I think that's why the creator remains by it is easy because why would it be hard? Like what do you think? Unless it's time consuming, that's a different word or something else. I think there's also an element of people that don't want it to do the work. Because I think that's also fine too, right? Yeah, because it's a little girl's choice. Yeah, and no girls that enjoy it. That's true. I feel like one thing with makeup, I hate wearing makeup. That's the worst part of my day. It's having to sit down that desk and look at that vanity, put the brows on and be patient. I can't stand that. Why no girls who like spend six hours on their face? Like my makeup is 20 minutes of done. But I know a lot of people who's hair would take like, you know, who's makeup takes like three hours and I'm like girl, how would you have the time or patience? That's why I shave my hair. I don't have the time or patience. I don't like hair, so I'm not gonna put it. But also this again is an act of like radical acceptance and a lot of us also have. The rest of my knee for natural hair is self love. All else will fall into place and rage this beauty in it and accept your beautiful crown. Love it. Chrissy speaker of truth. That is a perfect comment for sure because Chrissy is absolutely right. It really is that, right? I think accepting who you are at the end of the day is always like my mission, especially with like this, like listen to it too. I was just out of summit over the weekend where it was a bald icon, right? This is called a bald conference. It's a conference a full of bald, beautiful black women. We had like one white woman. It was mostly just all black women. Some of them have cancer. Some folks have a suffer from alopecia, lupus, any hair related like treatments and problems and some just are bold by choice. And it was about maybe like 50 to 100 people in the room. I'm telling y'all I have never been more inspired. I'm telling you right now, if you look good bold, nothing on the top, you look good because I can't put a lot of faith. Not a lot of us could. Come to find out everybody. Everybody, everybody, everybody, everybody, everybody. Can you believe that? Everybody, everybody, everybody, everybody, everybody. That's what. Everybody, everybody, everybody, everybody, everybody, everybody. I remember the conversations that kept making was all around like the radical acceptance that it has to come before me, like shaving the hair of. Cause for a lot of black women, our hair holds such a huge part of identity that it's hard to navigate and express. And I think it all comes back to self love, like how you show up and who you're comparing yourself to at end of the day. Cause if you live in America, the center of beauty isn't a dark skinned black woman with forcey hair. So even that, and then it's not even a bold dark skinned black woman with no hair. So I think that acceptance should come in all facets because of it. If you just present yourself as you are and you'd be fine. Like fuck, everyone's also the opinion on beauty because you're beautiful just the way you are. Hair, no hair, all of that. Closing out that odd topic, that was T. Good job, Donald. That is our first time trying like this series out on the pod. And I like it. I love bragging the stuff. It's really good. Next one is Afrobeats is becoming to America. Oh, you're gonna get me castles, okay. So Donald says, let me get you here. Your Afrobeats is becoming to American. Hey, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. Is Afrobeats becoming to American and losing its authenticity and essence? Okay, here's the thing about Afrobeats in this. I also took a hot take on it and odd take, if you will. I think the biggest issue with African storytelling, right? Is people's lack of understanding of the continent. So what is happening is there's a disconnect between what people expect from the continent and what is actually on the continent. Afrobeats is a big example of that. With Afrobeats, everyone thinks Afrobeats is just this one thing type of music that's coming out of this continent to the world and it's one package. And that's a lot of the things that Africans have struggled with for so long. You hear that one story. Whether it's like the African booty scratcher or all African kids have tuberculosis and they have flag going into their mouths or they don't have shoes. Like there's always that one story when we're like a whole continent with so many different countries with so many variety of stories. And it's so hard for the rest of the world to accept that. So my problem with Afrobeats now is that our artists are looking again comparing their success to Western ideas of success. So a burner boy is wanting to look away from Nigeria, away from Africa to, okay, burner boy is a crazy example is burner boy is a giant of Africa. Who can I use an example of it? I think I'm gonna get canceled if I say this. I say it. I don't know what I'm saying. I don't know what I'm gonna say. I'm gonna say it. I think Addicola Gold is an example of that, right? Versus like an Ashake when it first started. Like an Addicola Gold when he started was very Euro-Bat, very heavy in that music. And the transition from Addicola Gold or Rente to Addicola Gold to a teo tequila big fish. It's just interesting, the dynamic. You wonder if it's creativity or if it's consumerism, right? How can he get his music to a larger audience just not the continent? However, with Ashake's example, and Ashake I feel like might just be this icon, this star who just happens to come out. You never know with these things, but you wouldn't know if you don't try, right? And Ashake coming out, MSG selling out the entire stadium, singing in Euro-Bastry, like on diluted, just pure madness. It's incredible to see, because he knows his audience, right? A rema with Ozeba, with his also, Sino. Did you guys know that Rema's album is E is H-E-I-S? Not his. The way you know this is the thing? Yeah. I did not know that. I found out like, I think Corsi posted a TikTok where she was like, his and it's actually E is. I'm like, I thought it was his, like H-E-I-S his. No, E is crazy. Anyways, Sibar. But yeah, I think that's what's interesting. So I don't think Afrobeats is becoming Western American. I do think our artists are switching up their tone. I've never heard that before. What? Western American. Well like Western or American, like the West, the idea is like. That's an interesting take. Yeah. Westernized is. Western or is the American? Western. It's like same. Westernized is like, it's like interchangeable. I would use it as interchangeable yet. So I think, I don't think it's becoming Westernized or American. I think it's more so our artists might be changing their music to adapt to the culture. It's the same thing with like a Selena Gomez on Calm Down, right? Versus a Chris Brown on the Diamond Platinum song. Right? Chris Brown does a good job of blending in with the culture. And Selena Gomez was just singing, I'd say, Lung Gomez on the sound. Does that make sense? It's interesting. OK, so I have a video here. Is it a lot? Is it a long video? No. OK. So talk to me about the maybe please. Mm. Yeah, I just vibe mostly. I vibe because like, I have different ways of, different, or different means of creation. Sometimes I just write and just record. I feel like beats as people call it. He's mostly about nothing. There's no substance to it. like nobody's talking about anything, it's just a great time. Nego, what? Other time people just wanna make you make sense all the time, but I'm telling you bro, like, for real. If I actually put real words to that sound, it wouldn't have made that much impact. Yo, it's genius to actually make people sing. True. Words that don't actually mean anything. It's genius. It's not runk. Come on, please, what is that song? I forgot, there's so many other songs I don't make sense. Every one of them. Has it a haircut? Hit it, hit it, hit it, hit it. Yeah, that's it. Oh, is that about? Oh, that's okay. Back in the day, we go about the authenticity of our movies. Yeah. Do you remember the song, The Prince? Tick Banana to Ego Yo. Tick Banana to Ego. And the song he pretty much says, Tick Banana to Ego Yo, the entire song. Yes. Nothing else. But I feel like that's the vibe though, right? That's like, cause at the same time, right? The song he did where he talked about the Ninja Delta crisis. That's impact. That's also Afrobeats. And he also can do his song where it's playing too. But you can also do that. I think it's okay to have duality with Afrobeats, right? Why are we trying to reach, have you got American pop music? It's nonsense. Like half the time, right? There's four music and there's no sense. Like it's okay to have duality in this type of music. And Afrobeats is also like so general now. Like what are we calling Afrobeats? Is it music from Nigeria? Is it a musical? Is it a type of sound style? Like what is Afrobeats at the end of the day? Is it everything that comes out from the continent? Don't know, it has a question. Have a hands up. Okay, tell me what's Afrobeats. Tell me what's Afrobeats. Oh, she does. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Let me see what she said. Oh, that's a good segue. Period, so. Afrobeats thinking about the origin, which is Nigeria is for certain purpose. It's for the Nigerian people. Now, if you like Afrobeats from the outside, do you understand? You can join us in the enjoyment of it. But Afrobeats was tailored for Nigerian people originally. Do you understand? It uplifts the Nigerian people. Nigerians don't want to be reminded of their own hardship. So they want things that are elevating. Like I'm gonna make it. Like I'm going to be great. I'm going to do great things because I am great. I don't think she's wrong. I really don't think she's wrong. I really think, because my understanding of Afrobeats definitely comes from like hearing Nigerian music. Like it's very centered to entail her to us. Like the same way I remember South Africans have Amapiano. It's ridiculous to think Nigerians are trying to make Amapiano. And even when they did an Amapiano song, it had a distinct sound that would tell you that is an Nigerian attempting to do Amapiano, right? And I think what Tyler said at the VMAs, I think it was at the VMAs where she said Afrobeats is not general. Like it's a very specific type of sound. It is not like Amapiano is difficult. Her sound, I don't, at the song that she was underneath for, it was not even Amapiano. I think it was just pop music, right? But the fact that she's from the continent, immediately put her in this particular like bucket of, oh, she's an African artist, she's gonna win this. We're just frustrating because to put Tyler in the same category as a Davido Ashake, Brenda Boy is crazy. Like Tyler should be in the same category as a Coco Jones, like as a Ventura Monet, like women who are singing pop music, R&B stuff like that, because that's what she's like. Tyler, what is the difference between Tyler and Sabrina Carpenter? What is the difference? A Tyler and Sabrina Carpenter are this, like they're creating the same style of music, right? Where it's like pop music is upbeat. Sabrina Carpenter is just a white girl with blonde hair, the old Hollywood style, and Tyler is a bad bitch. So anyways, that's what I think. But no, I accept that. I think if there's gonna be an award in America for African music, I think it should be African music, and the genre's honor that should be distinct. So this is of calling it Afrobeats, it could be, you know, African sound of the year, right? Or African music of the year, something like that, and then have the different genres, because I don't think Diamond Platinum is an Afrobeats artist, right? And he's from Tanzania. And I think Amapiano is a very different sound, from even the sounds from Morocco, like Angela Kijo, is she Amapiano? No. But she deserves also awards like this in the situation. But again, to group up entire continent with that, also it feels very like diluted. Like it feels like us getting one category, when we're literally like water, it was a huge song over the summer. What should have been nominated with the big wigs? Water should have been nominated in the pop song of the year. Why was it only like limited to an Afrobeats category? Especially with the viability of it. It's like when you go to the BTO award, they keep taking culture and genre and like trying to mix it together. Yeah. Because at the BTO awards, you have hip-hop, you have rap, right? At the Grammys, you have classical music, you have country, you have all the things. Absolutely. So if you're going to add, I have to tell you. So why don't we just make our own? Why are we chasing after Western ideas of success, right? Again, moving back to the hair thing in the same conversation. I don't know the answer to this. I don't know what you're trying. Who? Like the, because like, the BTO. Why are we fighting? No, but why are we fighting to be in a space that doesn't want us there in the first place? Like I think they do. They don't. I, like, the BTO, the Grammys, the VMAs, all of the, I don't think they want us in their space. I think it's an interesting concept. I think the money's there because I feel like, maybe the question is, where's the money? Right. And the money and the recognition does lie in those cat, in those like organizations, all that stuff. Maybe that's what we're chasing, right? That makes sense. But then they're not, these organizations are not going to do the work to recognize us. So why don't we create something that will recognize us? You're telling me the entire continent of Africa cannot create something to rival the Grammys with what is coming out there? There's no way. We have them. It just deals with the respect of it. Like Korean music? They got their award. They got their people. They come into it and say to people like, oh, we love you, but they're going back because that's where the fan base is. Our artist in Nigeria is not doing hosting, they don't host shows anymore in Nigeria. They're coming to America to sell out mine. This is Gorgardin, which is great because the money is here for sure. I respect that. Why not take that money and put it back? Build those systems. If you're frustrated because the venue you want or the dream idea can be executed in Nigeria, it can be actually in America. And the money you're making in America, it's going to be a quarter of it and put it back to the country to build something. We're constantly chasing the recognition of the white people. They don't give it flying fudge. They don't. Because we're actually in a good path with all the concerts that were happening back then. In March 2018, 2019, that's a December? Yeah. It could tell. It was crazy. Well, also, it's nuance, right? Because our people are also crazy. I know how much, I think it was a frustration with David or the last thing he was trying to perform there, like lie people, like crowd control, all that stuff. There are systems that need to be in place for these things to happen. But again, we're comparing ourselves to the success of what American concerts look like. It's come along with America's 300 years old. We're just starting. And that's OK. We're going to learn, why don't we give ourselves the same grace? Why are we comparing ourselves to a nation that's been existing this long? And I was going through a lot of crazy times when we're just starting. Why not invest back? We talk about what things the industry is putting back into place to help us? What is it? Like, when are they actually going to start doing this things for us? We've gone through these conferences when people are talking about the creator economy. Everyone is talking about it from an American perspective. What happens when we actually look within ourselves? The headies, the headies is in Atlanta, Georgia. The headies, one of the biggest, the headies is like the VMAs of Nigerian music, is in Atlanta, Georgia. Atlanta, Atlanta, Georgia, nor even Houston, Texas. Not Maryland, Atlanta, don't piss me off. It's a good point, though. I think my question is, who makes the investment? Because... Don Jazzy. Because true, right? No, please don't hate me. I'm so sorry. It's true. But not just him, right? I think we also have to come together. Because I do understand when you think about like... Is my nose running? The dollar? No. We ain't got the dollar, right? Yeah. I think Upper Room 2 is exposure. If an artist comes here and makes $100,000 for a show, right? Now, that same artist... You know what's being like money? You know what's being like, what, diaspora? No, true, true. So what kind of diaspora... The one of times the people are going to come... Going to flex and enjoy in December for that party, turn up, whatever. All that money they're putting into clubs, to continue to lend their money. Right. Why don't they carry that energy? If Ashakeh decides the only time he's ever going to tour, is it to go to Nigeria? No. Are you telling me? People are going to come. If Ashakeh decides today, the only tour he's ever going to do is going to be on the continent. It's a mental shift. And it's hard. I know I sound so privileged. You're not talking. There's so many else that are going to be taken. It's not going to be easy. Nothing, nothing I'm saying right now is easy. In fact, I don't know if it's even possible, right? But for me, that makes sense. It makes sense that we decide. Because I MSG, everybody who was coming in, everybody was black. They all look like me. They're Nigerian-Americans, African-Americans, so we'll leave Americans, Ghanaian-Americans like, it was people who were here, but that money, they can be like, you could save up. If you know Ashakeh is touring and he's going to be playing seven shows in Nigeria, July to August next year, right? Some amount of money. There's an experience there. Do you know how many companies can even be birthed from creating the tours and experiences? Exactly. Because there's Cabo, experience Cabo and TikTok, where you're doing all this December thing. Like, do you know how many companies who are on the ground, can start creating experiences like that? They're ready. So, why are you bringing in? That's what Ghana tried to do with that in December. There's so many missions too, right? Exactly. Because most people want to visit African-Americans. Yes. Because they give them a reason to come to those cities. You can collaborate. Because I remember when I used to tour with the video in 2013-2014, most of those shows all true to continents were done by presidents. So, the presidents who paid the video to come to the country and the citizens were able to come in for free to watch it and he's performing to 80 or 100,000 people. Honestly, I'm going to sit here and be like, this probably isn't an organization that's been created. Right. That's supposed to be doing that, but if you know my people, if you know my people, if you know. That's the whole point of videos like this, right? It's like the jazz. That's that. That's the conversation. Come on. You don't want that much to be spread. No, not the jazz. You don't want that much to be spread. It's not that. It's the other guy. It's not too deep. No, demand. Who is this? Dude, not dude. Dude? Concepts? No. Dude, dude. Dude. Dude, come on. Yo, we're calling names of some big waves in African music. I didn't even think we were like, there's plenty of other people behind us who are like, I don't even know that you don't even know. Right. Well, our conversation doesn't need to happen because I think there needs to be a shift, especially when we're talking about how diluted African music could become. Like Rema said it when he was like, the, he is the album coming out was very intentional for this reason too. Talists talked about it, and we're also less crazy, right? It's like, oh, why are they complaining? They're finding recognized. Why the, the other in this conversation, it's want to create for ourselves. We want more spaces where we're celebrated. We want more spaces where we're celebrated. Next one. Parents should stop making kids fear. I saw that video. I love that we have the same FYPO. Oh my god. Y'all, okay, let's go. Because I really want to make a TikTok. But I never know how to say, like when I put a phone down to talk, it's so hard. On this, let's talk. Okay, so what's the ideal way to raise children? And this is my take. Should we train soldiers or free-range chickens? Have videos to show you first. I just saw a video that said, the safest children are the loudest. And what does that make you think of immediately? A black children are conditioned to act in public. And how white children are conditioned to act in public. Those are very big differences. I'm on the train and I see the white kids just, you know, pacing up and down, running a little. Yeah, the parents are still watching them. No, they're not bothering anyone. Being inappropriate, but they are free, genuinely. I saw the same thing when I went to the zoo last week. They're loud and inquisitive. Mom, this mom, look at this. Everybody can hear them. And that's how children should be free. In my same video where he said the safest kids are the loudest, he also said that his role as a parent is to allow his child to grow and move throughout life without fear. And this is for all my people of color watching this. Did you fear your parents? Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. I have a ton of others. I have two perspectives to give about raising kids. I do not have kids. I don't know if I want kids. Mom, if you're watching this. But I want to speak from an American perspective as an immigrant who came here and from the immigrant perspective. Because back home, right, there's still this ideal fear because I don't see why kids where I'm raised. It's just a bunch of black kids running around versus America. What she said about the airport and the train is absolutely true. That's a fact. And one of my biggest things about our community is where's the black community within America is like our community is ruled by shame. And that could definitely be stemmed, like, it doesn't be definitely, it is stemming from slavery, right? The idea they're like, you're supposed to be a certain way, like the good slave. The one who's well prepared, you don't want to make too much noise, you want to be appear, no one disturbed the master, the idea has come down generations upon generations to where black kids are told to sit up straight, sit down, how dare you, don't move, don't run. That shows in black kids and black young adults when they grow up. That's a fact. Like the audacity, young black people have here in America is so different from the destiny of young children. You wonder why Nigerians are so arrogant when they come outside. There's nothing you're comparing yourself to. The freedom you have to express yourself isn't tailored to what the color of your skin is simply how you were raised, right? In this conversation, I remember I saw a TikTok where a white child was running around the airport. It was like, oh my god, that's so cute. Look at that boy. As a white kid, you're raised to have zero inhibitions. You're just having fun. Like you're allowed to explore, you're allowed to jump, how high, as a black kid, you're supposed to sit up, don't embarrass me, sit down, don't do this. Your curiosity is stifled because of it and you can see that when you grow up. The Nigerian context I want to give is the only thing that makes you too much or too annoying or too loud is if anything how you grow up, are you wealthy or not, right? Because if you're wealthy, you're comparison to how well you're doing as if your parents are rich and they're comparing their livelihood and how you behave to the Western ideas of what rich people act or how rich people act and not idea, versus if you're just hanging around with normal kids from low-income households or whatever. They're chilling, cleaning the grass, they're jumping above their parents, they're in the gutter playing, your cousins are all running around. That's literally how you grew up. How I grew up, we had no, the only reason they're telling you to stop is if you're going to get hurt, right? You're allowed to play, to have fun, to be a kid, like there is no, don't let this person catch you, don't let this person, there's not, there's none of that. They also tell you don't get hurt. That's what they tell you. That's what they tell you. They never say don't do that, it's just don't get hurt. And if you get hurt, then I told you, I told you, you see, I remember seeing that all the time, now you've seen it, now you're crying. That's the difference in how you're raised as a young kid where I'm from, because you're not comparing any, you're only comparing the fact that you might be embarrassed because you're poor, right? Because if you think about like, if you're going to a rich family and from a poor family, that's when your mom will tell you, oh yeah, sit down, I don't get to be at share, sit properly, right? Because the poor kids don't behave a certain way versus the rich kids. But again, I ask folks who are in that dynamic, if you're a rich kid, who are your parents comparing you to, especially the idea of westernization, especially if you're in Nigeria versus here. That's my thought on it. That's an interesting take. No, because like, I didn't even like think about it that way. That's what it's like, I'm so like, oh my god, what can I get, like, where can I go into work? Because, because when I was first, like, when I saw the video, the first thing I thought about was like, I was afraid of my parents, right? It's like, there was that moment where, but... But the fear isn't based on a comparison to whiteness or the white man in any capacity, it's usually just... Your parents are strict. I'm like, I forget. It's like Korean parents. Yeah. No, Korean. She's not Korean anymore. We keep calling them like Asian people. For example, immigrant parents tend to be stricter, right? Because usually it's just behavior. Don't get hurt. You want to be successful. Right, right. You want to be... You have to behave a certain way. Not necessarily compared to... You can always still stem that from colonization, right? In a larger scheme of things. If you behave a certain way, you're more likely to be successful. Because then you can assimilate more into the culture that has the money. Right. And the spending power is definitely in the Western hand. Because... And I think the parents, too, also have this thing that they're fighting too. So they're pretty much projected on the children. On the children. Exactly. Well, in America, especially within Black America, the usual comparison is to whiteness. Right. Like, you don't want to be embarrassing. You don't want to embarrass me. Don't let me catch you. It's different. That fear is different. And I love when folks see that and think radical. Like, let's stop doing that. Okay. So this person that wrote this comment, right? First, I like that statement. You're not training children. You're molding adults. But I think you should read this comment. I was thinking about how I'm still low-key afraid of my parents the other night. I heard my mom hid and prudentiously, but then I paused because I'm 19. Like, I was so afraid of her finding me awake. My relationship with them is very relaxed. So a part of me still holds to when it wasn't like that. I think that's true. I really think there's a certain level of respect our parents hold. It's what Black people growing up that we oftentimes see it as fear. Right. Because again, and this is such a general idea, a lot of times when you're in, when you're Black parents, right, you're going through adversity in some capacity. The best thing you want to do is train this child to be the best version of you or have the best life. Right. So you're looking at everything society has told you as a mom, as a dad or whatever, and you're trying your best to give them a better life at some level, some general level. That's the case. So I don't necessarily accept the fear why see it, I understand it. Like it makes sense that my mom would want me to behave a certain way because she knows that. To find a good job, I shouldn't be doing too much or going this way or doing that way. I should stay in bed. I shouldn't get up. Get punished if I go hang out with the white kids because if I'm playing around and I get in trouble because I'm curious, I'm going to get the punishment most of the time the white kids want, right? If I'm in Nigeria and I get punished, the rich kids are going to get away. The poor kids aren't, right? That is where that fear comes from. And hopefully as time goes on, of course, they're going to be in better circumstances. So that's not really the case. Well, usually that is oftentimes where the fear comes from. Oh, they just parents who have not done the work to be better people for their kids, right? It's like you have a kid and you're like, all that fear and anger growing up. I want to pour it into this human and those are also the toxic ones. But for the most part, the general idea is you want a better life for your kids. You want to try. You're scared to have them do so many things because of it. Okay. Another comment. My little brother stole something and I yelled at him and then I realized I'm acting like my dad when I was yelled at for making a mistake and I really said crying, hugging him and cleaning it. I love this take because it's true. Like I see it now when my Goddard is doing something and I catch myself wanting to yell at them to stop and I realize I want them to be curious, right? I want them to, I want them to spill that drink, I want them to put their hand in the fire. Like I want them to explore because curiosity is such a beautiful thing for a kid to explore and experience. Like we see with like, I hate that I'm about to compare this. Well, we see with like when folks have dogs, right? And the dogs are sniffing around because they say it's an enrichment thing. Your dog is outside and there's pee and there's this and there's that. When you're laying the dog because they're like, oh, it helps their senses, that's exactly what it should be for kids. Like them exploring is helping them gain experiences. If they fall down once, they won't fall down again. If they're burning their head once, they're not going to burn it again. Or they will. Kids are stubborn. But the idea is like if you don't let them, if you let your fear rule, how they're going to behave, then you're already limited in them and they've never tried in the first way. So when you see a dog's growing up who are exhausted, who are tried, who are scared to try new things, that's where that comes from. I was already part of my parents and they always made me scared of the world saying things like, you're going to get kidnap such a touch. I kind of got a job now because I'm so scared to talk to strangers. I hate that for this commenter. That feels like that's like the extreme end of the spectrum, right? It's not extreme. Really? The reason why I can't swim is because. Okay. Let's talk about black and cool swimming, right? Because I understand that fear though, right? It was a kidnap thing though. We can't go to the beach. We can't go to the pool because that's where kidnap. Yeah, well, thinking about the stories of when your parents were growing up, kidnaping was huge, especially for like kids and people because that was when trafficking was happening. Kids were getting their soul to talk to help with, like, you know, how's the girl until like that and then traveling about, like, even thinking about it from a slavery perspective, the idea that our people were sold into slavery and going away, it's huge. We don't, we don't connect the dogs and the people who died in the water, you know, the problem that they found out is that they used to be a lot of public swimming pools in America. Yeah. They closed down public swimming pools. It's because the white people didn't want the black people to swim and they didn't want to swim in the water. Swimming in that, yeah. So think about it from like that. When you never, if you're a parent who never had the opportunity to experience something, then you had to tell stories to yourself to make yourself feel like this is why I didn't experience this. And so my mom can't teach me how to swim because she can't swim. And you think she's going to trust a random person to teach me how to swim when the possibility is death. Right. Then don't go near water, right? But again, that's why breaking generational curses happens where there's survival things, right? There's skills that I wasn't allowed to ride a bike, I wasn't allowed to go swimming, I wasn't allowed to do gymnastics, I could break my head, I got so many things I wasn't allowed to do from that fear, but I was a really stubborn child. So I did it anyways and I'm so grateful I did. And now I know that my kids are going to not swim quick. Like immediately that child is eight months old, it's going to the pool. Let's start learning how to swim. Conclude. Don't all rights conclude of my iPad, I'm like, conclusion. But yeah, yo, I think that's pretty much it. I think there's a lot of, I can't imagine my mom in therapy right now because she's 65. I wish there was therapy for her parents. I think it's even harder to be trying to get them in therapy. However, I do think I've learned to treat our parents as humans because they are. Like they're figuring it out too. And the whole idea behind generational trauma and curses is hopefully if we're having this conversation now with our generation, the next generation we're going to be creating, we're able to live freely and freer than we did. We can't, we can't sit in the past and live in the past. We can't. Right. And fucking sucks that we didn't learn how to swim, that we're not allowed to go play and be crazy when we're young, that we were smacked, we hit, we're in between, it sucks. We've gone through a lot because of it. But I know that I, I know that I will make sure my kids don't experience what I experience. So I don't end thinking because I suffer like this, you will suffer too. It's more of a shift. Because I suffer like this, I know now how important it is to impact the idea of fun, of experiences to my child. Dunza. What is that deal way to raise children? I think, I would say that my mom was always very limiting, like she, she never told me explicitly you can't do something, but I definitely knew there were limits. What she also didn't force me, she never hit me, she never like did things I would. Like if I said I wasn't going to do this and she told me not to do something and I did it, it wasn't the end of the world basically. So I think that's what is allowed me to always question a lot of things. We still went through a lot of push and pull, but I think generally I think just to raise kids to have more freedom, especially black kids. They deserve to dream, they deserve to explore, they deserve to jump, because usually when black kids jump, you should tell them to not sit down but to jump higher. Because that's the end, that's the end goal at the end of the day. Okay. I like the, yeah, she's in for sure. Okay. Oh, I think you heard about it. Yes, now. Okay. If I heard about shits and gigs, I've hired her to buy shits and gigs. Okay. Are you kidding me? Yeah, she just, what is the, what is the black girlfriend? Oh, I saw this, the other culture. Yeah, so you'll see a guy who's had a black girlfriend, all of a sudden he's got a bus car like, yeah, I like that. We shaved their hair, because they start losing it, because they start stressing around his black girl complaining about shit all the fucking time. That's why they got to shave their hair. Okay. First of all, that pack was too loud, it wasn't necessary, your head is going back for that joke. Okay. Play. They grow beer. They step, there's more cushion when they get slapped the fuck out of it. I think, I think the black girlfriend effect, it might be a protective instinct, bro. You think? Yeah. Do you guys, do you guys, have you ever had black girlfriends? Yeah. Do you, have you ever had white girls? Yeah. Oh, wow. Okay. What's your favorite? We love them all. Yeah. Yeah. First of all, I want to say, it looks like Andrew Schultz is the only white man in the room. Yes. And his laugh is not the loudest. We says a lot to me about this entire conversation. So when I watch the shits and gigs thing, mind you, love shits and gigs. I take that back. Let me explain. You do, though. I don't. No, you did. I didn't. No. I've never watched a full episode where I love how hard they've worked. I'll say that. I don't know them personally. I was a fan of, to see two black men sell out a whole stadium is incredible. I want to give them the props for that. To see how they've changed podcast culture, it's really from the UK coming out here. Like touring in America, that's incredible. Now, the US market versus the UK market, especially with entertainment, is so dicey. It's so dicey. And so my, my questions when I saw this was who told them to go on Andrew Schultz? Right. First of all, who? Who in there? I might have said that. Second, how, how much they understand American politics, especially society's ideas of black women, enough for them to go on that podcast and cackle the way they cackled. Right. And I also say the third thing as a creator, I understand uncomfortable situations. I'll give you an example. The other day, I wasn't on a date, but I went out with a white man, we're talking, we're having fun. And then we were sitting across, and this made me go get me canceled too. I don't know. But we were sitting across from me and he was like, I'm going to order a coffee. And it was like, I'm going to order a coffee like I like my black women, black and bitter. And I'm telling you me, I'm going to let me cancel myself right now. When he said that, I did not know what to say. In fact, transparently, I laughed. I was like, oh, and then I, it was like, wait, did you just say that? And he looked at me and I promised you, Sophie, over a year ago, my not have said, did you just say that to avoid the conflict, the interaction that that would have brought on? Because that was a long time relationship that I wanted to keep. You know what I mean? Because I didn't want to make it uncomfortable for him, even though he made me uncomfortable. And there's something that I've learned that as a black person in America, you sometimes want to do. You find yourself consciously doing that. You're not radical in that way, right? I just like, I would rather not just engage in this because you don't know better. I'm going to move on from it. And I remember when he said that, I did I thought of the shits and gigs thing and I said, oh, bitch, you got to talk. And then of course, that was like, did you just say that? He's like, nah, nah, nah, I was a joke. I said, that was a stupid joke. And the entirety of dinner was messed up and we left and it was like, that's weird, right? That to me is a hard dynamic. So actually, I'm generally, I'm not making excuses for them. I am generally saying from my perspective, when I heard that, I wouldn't say I understood, but I've been in that situation where I even felt like, oof, to be that person who's going to be like, shut up, sit down. It takes a lot of balls and I wish they had balls because they act like they do. I wish they had the balls in that instance of stand up for black women in that situation and they didn't. Matter of fact, they didn't. And then the opposite of what they did afterwards just didn't feel sincere, but it was a normal apology. Does that make sense? Like when I listened to everything they said, basically we were like, we were, it was uncomfortable for us. We're laughing. We're this, we're that. Like we're sorry. Like we didn't mean it. You want to play it? Yeah, let's do it. Right before we get into today's episode, quick PSA, quick, you know, it's the fact that their hands are down, their hands are like tucked in together. If you could tell they're sweating, yeah, okay. Knowledgement. So if you know, you know, if you don't, it's fine, but we just wanted to address something that's happening at the minute, this past weekend, there's been a couple of clips going around from when we did a session on the flagrant podcast, mobile on our US tour. And yeah, there were a few jokes made that were incredibly inappropriate, one specifically pertaining to black women. And in the clip, Andrew was making a joke. I'm not even going to get into specifics, making a like, can we not listen to the entire thing? I've watched it already. Okay. Okay. I don't know what do you think. I'm so, so this is a man. As a black man. Okay. Tell me. I think like a lot of these cancellations and things that happen, you know, are great because they help highlights. I don't think cancel culture is good. No, no, it's not good. Okay. But they help highlight certain problems. Yeah. They help people who live in the UK. Yes. And anybody who consumes UK content, yes, they're very, very extreme. Yes. Like the British humor is borderline like crazy. Okay. And when you take that and you bring that to America, the American audience is extremely sensitive. sensitive. Yeah. And then you connect that with going on the podcast, like Andrew Schultz with a comedian who is known for the extremity, right? He's, he's a racist white man. Yes. And he's a white man. Like, you know, and he's on the podcast. And I thought he was the one who actually did a good job of like interacting with different audiences. Maybe just not the black audience, right? Because I've seen him and I've seen his stand up with him. And I always respected how he mingled language and culture, but that's the problem, right? The jokes that he's making, they're not things that like, he's not trying to be racist because he actually understands the problem. Do you understand? That's why I said bad jokes. That's why I'm like, that's where my frustration comes in, even with the commercial, because did you see he reacted to their apology? And that's what I'm telling you that you just have to be crazy. Right. You know what I mean? And I don't know, I'm bringing her into this, but E.Kane is a good example of that. E.Kane is his TikToker who has a thousand amino followers. I don't know how many followers she has right now. And she talks about how when the masses are coming for you, how you respond dictates how you're treated, right? Right, right. Because it's just a gig thing. Own that shit. We fucked up, not necessarily like with your tails behind your own ass shit. You fucked up. We laughed. It was uncomfortable. Or we laughed anyways. We just, I'm, we're sorry. We fucked up. Let's make it up to you. Done. Right. The story, the background, the Wishing of Dunna added more fire to the flame because Andrew Schultz comes in and says, yeah, I said it. I said it. Yeah, I meant it. I watched it. He reacted to him watching the video and he even said, haha, that's not true. They watched the video. They took out some things. They left that in there. He's been poking a hose in it because he's an asshole, right? Like, in the American context, that's a white man who now is able to belittle two black men because of the position of power he's in. That's unfortunate for me. And putting themselves in that position is unfortunate too, but how could, how were they going to help that situation? Right. You know what I mean? They found it funny. Yes. They did. They did. Like, that's what I'm saying. At the end of the day, like, don't pretend, right? Like, I'm a dark-skinned black woman. I know. I get the joke all the time. Oh, you're aggressive. Oh, you're too much trouble. Oh, you're going to stress me out. We're not soft in society, even though we are. Like, me sitting here right now, unless I do, oh my gosh, you guys, I'm even dead. You made the joke this morning, right? Yeah. About how like, you know, when, like, when you like someone, you're kind of like, you know, aggressive. Yeah. Like, we're aggressive. We're hard. We're this. We're that. We're stressors, right? White skin. You're white. You're so sweet. You're so dainty. You're so adorable. And like, oh, I want to take care of you. We don't get the same treatment, simply because of how dark our skin is. It feels like the darker your skin, the more of a, you know, it's thinking about it from like, even a protest perspective, right? When the black girl is in front, like, oh, yeah, that's our queen. Yeah, you go. Yeah. Black power. She's going to be in charge. You see a light skin woman in a protest. Oh, girl. You sure you want her to go? Like, even within that context, right? Like, we're seen as the powerhouses. So when they're laughing, that's exactly why they're laughing because they think that. They really do. Now my issue with the apologies just say it, only apologize and show how you'd be better because it's not a lie, right? A lot of black men, a lot of black men think that they do. It's been in society for so long. We see it. We see dark skin men, date white girls or mid-skin women, they get successful. We see them do that now. We see them work. When they talk about even wanting Bunda, right, they're not thinking of Bunda with the dark skin woman. They're not. They probably want some BBL baddie who's definitely not dark skin. That's typically how society sees that. So I think my for sure, again, it's just, I wish they just owned it and just set it straight up because I know they're good guys. You know, I don't know them personally, but I'm always, this doesn't matter, right? Because the idea is like, I'm going to always give someone the benefit of the doubt. Like, you fucked up. It's okay. Like, apologize for it unless we want from it. Because I don't, I'm going to fuck up on this podcast so many times. I'm going to make mistakes. I'm going to generalize. I'm going to laugh when I should. I'm going to be uncomfortable. Human nature is that anyone who says otherwise, like people, that's why I get frustrated with the comment section because people hacks I and 90 when they're not, right? People make mistakes. They made a mistake in this situation. They laugh when they shouldn't have. It's a teachable moment, right? Why do we stop giving people teachable moments? And I always appreciate when we respond to those things like, I hate, honestly, I hate it. So they're like, yeah, f them, I'm not supporting them anymore, da, da, da, da, da. Why does our community do that? Right. Bringing into cancel culture, like, they messed up. That should not be the end of the world for them. They don't deserve to be destroyed for all their work because of that mistake. In fact, nobody should have that power or feel like they need that power to destroy other people because of one mistake. If anything, bring back teachable moments, y'all fucked up. Like, use the apology and like, tell them, don't say the apology is not like. Yeah. It's my biggest thing with cancel culture, especially because I, Brooks Schofield, love her. Don't actually, I don't know what to stop saying, love her or love him or love them. Maybe flipping the word. By understanding what you're saying. Well, you know what I mean? But I'm like, I don't want to, I just say love because I love love you. I'm just like, I love them. But Brooks show is an example of gain cancel three weeks later and going back to the podcast, like, nothing happened. And you know what's crazy? People go on support. Why girls? Right back. They don't care. It's gone. All the time. This is my take. When this is a clip, do Sophie's take pop culture, cancel culture, because that's really why I hate. I hate about cancel culture is we don't let people make mistakes within our community. Right? That's where the shame factor comes in. It's like, we built you up so we're going to take you down, right? And I hate that because what then happens is it's a cycle of people coming up, going down, coming. Look at Keith Lee. The more Keith Lee was rising too fast to work, let's think pieces now about how he needs to hire a culture person, he needs to start doing a PR team, he needs to do that. That's just a man who likes eating chicken. That's it. Let Keith Lee eat chicken from now. He doesn't need a show. He doesn't need anything big. He just wants to eat chicken. That's fine. Let him do that. Let him go to different states and enjoy. Let him live. For me, like, that is what gets frustrated with them. They messed up. It's a teachable moment. Let's hope to do better. And then the conversation I know for a fact, the conversation is going to come back to me and say, well, that's not our job to forgive and forget. That's so true. You have every right, if you're listening to this, to also be like, I don't want to. That's okay. But you don't have to be vocal enough to where you're trying to take them down actively. It's a different between being passive and being actively trying to do something. Like for me, for example, oh, I didn't like how this person did. I'm not going to entertain it anymore versus, oh, I'm going to make sure I do 10 videos and tell 50 friends to never support these people again. They need to be broken down into pieces and suffer. And people take it to the extreme extreme. Some people would go to their address, their threats, like, it's like, and I think for me, like, of course, it's such a broad way to generalize it. But I think that's so unfortunate, especially within our culture. Right. I don't like, because I understand this grace in everything. And maybe I'm just Miss Grace, you know, I'm Miss Grace. I'm the one who's going to be the one who's like, oh, I think this person didn't mean it. People always give someone grace to let them throw me off a roof. I'm going to give you grace, right? Because I don't think I should ever have the power to influence someone's life in that way. Because again, mental health is such a real thing. Like, you never know if anything happens to those men, oh, we're so sorry, oh, we didn't mean this. And then what? Right. And I hate that we try so hard to break people down. Like, I think of Nella Rose when she was getting big and too successful trying to bring her down to. I think of, like, all the black creators who do so well, who might, finita, oh, my God, finita. Right. When we talk about people's responses to that girl, finita is what, 23, maybe 25. She's figuring life out. She is going to stumble. She is going to fall. She's going to try. She's going to fail. The idea behind being folks who are in the same discourse as her is to hopefully be that person who's also going to support. Why don't we share people on more? Why don't we decide instead of being a group of people who want to tear these people down, we should bring them up, even if they don't listen, right? Every time I see a finita video and I think, girl, that's a wild ass take. That's it. I'm going to post 50 think pieces about it. I'm going to hopefully think she thinks better about it. She moves on from it. And if she doesn't, that's okay. I don't need to bring her down. Someone is her audience. Let her live. Let her make her money. It has nothing to do with me. It doesn't affect me in any way. So that's my take. This should be great for redemption. Yes. We need more redemption arcs, arcs, arcs, redemption arcs, whatever that word is, especially within our community. I really think that. I think that's why I share my process. I wonder if 10 episodes from now, I will come back and be like, I hate that I said that, right? And I want that to be okay too. Imagine if I had an idea, how hot take, or odd take, and I say it. And then two episodes from now, I'm like, oh, yeah, I was wrong. Please give me the grace to be wrong. Right. Please. I am literally, if you listen to this and you're watching this, I am begging you, give me the grace to be wrong. I am human. We are all human. Any influencer you see, we don't know what we're doing. There's this idea of we all have publicists and media people and people taking notes and none of that. We're literally just humans who have the audacity to post our lives online and our thoughts online. The fact that I'm doing this podcast right now means that I'm going to get so many opinions about from you guys about who I am as a person or my ideals or all my goals are. And I, inadvertently, I'm giving you the power to either make me or break me, except you don't have that power. Nobody should ever have that power for another human being because I'm going to still be strong. Right. And the goal for the community is, right, and I'm thinking of how you can make and break someone. Why not just make and teach? Why don't we do that instead? Let's make and teach. If they stumble, they fall, hey, Sophie, if you're watching this, then I think you should have done. I'm going to take that and run with it. Right. Okay. That's it. Are we done with the odd takes? Yes. Oh my God, you guys. I really like this episode. I feel like there's going to be so many more odd takes to see and so many things that I would love to chat about. So we would be doing so much more. Remember, this is going to be happening every multiple of three. Okay. I love you so much. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. And keep happening every multiple of three. Okay. I love you so much. Thank you for watching. 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