My reaction to the 2024 US ELCTION - Ep 06

Welcome to Am I Too Loud The Podcast. Hey guys, welcome back to Am I Too Loud The Podcast with Sophie, aka The Audity. I feel like that's weird to start the intro like that. Honestly, I feel like I'm out of the loop a little bit. If you listen to this on Spotify, hey gang, hey y'all. If you listen to this on audio, I should say, hey guys, I miss you, I love you. Hi, if you're watching this on YouTube, hey YouTube fam. I don't know how to start this episode because there's a lot of feelings going on right now about the recent American elections. But first, if you're watching this video, you can tell that I am like winter ready. Like I have a full fit on you guys. It is currently freezing in New York City. And if you don't know, I record my podcast on my balcony just for the funsies. So it is a bit chilly, okay. It's a bit cold. So if you hear any teeth chattering, just know that I am breathing the storm for you guys. Because I wanted to get this episode out to you ASAP. Some background before we dive into this episode. I just got back from a really, really nice fun trip. Hi, Donald, are you okay? I'm surviving. I'm going to make it though. We can make it try an hour or two. This is going to be a fun episode. It's not all this freezing as well. It's really cold outside. But no, any thoughts about my recent trip that I went on? I have questions. Okay, ask away. What was the title of the trip? What was the title? Of the trip? Yeah. What would you title the trip? If you were to explain your trip in one sentence? Ah, surreal. That's a word. Oh, okay. The title? Yeah. Finding oneself. That's deep. That goes more. I don't know. For context, you guys, I went on a pretty private solo adventure. Right? Yes. Yes. Solo. Solo. Adventure. For about five days. I did not record or record it from my personal use, but I didn't record anything. I never do that. I did not work at all. I just literally just lived and had such a good time. This was post the marathon. I just ran a new scene marathon if you didn't miss. If you missed last week's episode. So this was literally after the marathon. Two days later, I was on a flight, ten hour flight. To my destination. If you saw me at the so-called destination, hey. But yeah, because so many people recognized me. They were like, oh, nice. It was really cute. But yeah, I'm back. I literally just landed from the ten hour flight. And we don't know what it was like. We needed to film this episode because life was in court. Life is insane right now. And the fun fact, I literally was traveling the day of or the next day after the election results. So I left New York on the sixth. And I think that's when Trump declared that he won the elections. And the entirety of the internet and everyone was in uproar. And I was on a flight to the continent. That's the only sneak peak I would kind of say. Okay. So yeah, so that's that's the sort of like context around this episode. But you guys are going to dive in because this episode is going to be interesting. We're talking about the 2024 United States presidential elections. That he recently got concluded. If you've been listening to any of the episodes we've been recording. And something we've already recorded, I'll be coming out in the future. Donald was a very, very sure advocate for the fact that Kamala Harris is going to win. He was so sure about this. So Donald has a really, really soft spot. And he's kind of really tender right now. So we're going to be putting that in context for a lot of things. But yeah, Donald, how are you feeling about the election results? Let's start there. I feel heartbroken. Yeah. No, for your heartbroken. Okay. Like, did I remember I called you? You did. I three. I three. I also ran down. Everybody woke up at 3 a.m. Do we know that? It's like this is a thing that happened. Yeah. Everybody in the world woke up. Especially I feel like New Yorkers woke up at 3 a.m. To be like. Because that was when you announced. Yeah. What are the results? Because I feel like people fell asleep. That's 3 a.m. 3 30 time was when something happened in the world where we all collected gas and woke up instead. I have a word for it. Yeah. What's the word? Pennsylvania. Pennsylvania. Okay. Okay. Pennsylvania happened. Okay. You're like. First of all, I can't believe it. Really? Like, how did we elect. For just for censorship. I can't see those words because my mom raised me right. I was like, how? You know, and I think like, I was living in this land of delusion. Yes. You know, going into the election. Absolutely. You were. And I had my blindness on because like, it's like, you know, it's a black woman. We want her in the office. Yeah. We don't care. You know, what she's doing wrong. She didn't do anything wrong. No, no, no, right. We don't care, right? Yeah, but at the end of the day was like, okay, we wanted her to win. Yes. She didn't. Yes. And. Yeah. She didn't think she was going to win. I was so sure of it. Tell me why. Tell me why. I think we're going to get into a lot about the American electoral system as an all in this episode. And you guys just for context too. I enjoy politics. I went to school in America for political science. Like I studied American political system. And I also really, really enjoy like one political commentary show. So this is like right up my alley in terms of like expanding on what ideas people sort of have around this conversation. Kamala Harris was never going to win in America as of right now. The America that we exist in was not ready for Kamala Harris. The America was living ready for a Barack Obama, I would say. I think for someone who's lived in West Virginia, Louisiana, Washington, D.C., Virginia area, Jersey and New York. New York sometimes feels like a bubble. Yeah. It feels like that escape where you tend to think the old world has the similar ideals as you. But whenever you go to middle America, when you go online, when you go to the spots that aren't necessarily in your own echo chamber, you realize America is a pretty scary place. If you are not a white male. So I think that was the reality. The reality is like I lived in New York like since I moved to America. Yeah. Right. I didn't think about that part. I didn't think about it because you saying America isn't ready. We talked about this before. Yeah. And I'm like, they're so ready. We had Obama. No. You know, we just defeated Trump in 2020. Yeah. Like everyone knows where we need to go. Yeah. I think it's interesting you talked about like the US election system. I had a little article where I was going to talk about why we have like the democratic and the Republican Party. Yeah. But I think skipping that, right? We don't have to skip it. Let's talk about it. Let's explain for people who don't know how the Republican politics works. This is like not. You should listen to this and then go write an exam on it. Listen to this. Yes. This is like two people who have no idea. I didn't go to school for it. We went books. Yeah. But essentially America has two dominant political parties, Democrats and Republicans. And then there's also like the third party, the Tea Party, the Green Party, this other like independent parties. For the most part, that's how the American votes system is functioned to elect the president in this context. There is the popular vote and then the electoral college vote. The popular votes, I like to say, is something where they call vibes. Yeah. The popular vote is just, let's see who you guys really like. Right. Just for the fun of it. Right. And so that's typically where people cast their ballots. They go to the polls. They wait in line. They cast it for the popular votes. That means nothing. No, it does, though. It does not. It does. In this context, what you're doing is, according to my article, you're electing, right? You're pushing for the person that you want to be elected to represent. But that doesn't matter. You're not actually electing the person. No, you're just telling us you might want this person. Yes. Because someone can win the popular votes but lose the electoral college vote and still become president of the United. But there's a reason for that. Yes. Yes. But also what? Those are arguments, right? Yeah. Because it's for representation. Yes. Yes. Yes. Because if we go by population. Yes. A lot of states. Exactly. Some fun facts. Tell me. If California became a country on its own. Yes. It would have a higher GDP than India. Oh. Why do you know that? And it would be the ninth richest country in the world. That's random. I love that. That's a good fun fact for y'all. Yeah. That's the case you do now. An odd fact, if you will. So my take here is because California produces so much. Yeah. And all the other countries in all the other states in between middle America. Don't you think California should have a bigger say of who becomes president? No. I don't think so. I think America is really interesting as a country, right? Because I think it's like the fun part of the politics. It's not necessarily the right part of things. It's just like what it is. Yeah. And so basically the electoral college is a group of people that are selected to then cast their ballots. Sometime in like early January or end of December to then vote for the actual president of the United States. No. And that person is sworn in. Now, let's get to the mini-grady of it. Trump won the popular vote by far and is absolutely going to win. It also won the electoral college votes. If you tally it right now, like projected by far too. Which was a shock to a lot of people. I've seen a lot of people really, really surprised that Trump won. Even battleground streets like Pennsylvania and stuff. I don't think I was shocking. I didn't think I was shocking. I expected it. Because I don't think even right now there was a lot of like push and pull for Kamala Harris. But I think we're living in a world now where social media dominates our perspectives. But the reality is very, very different. You know what I mean? Yeah. And for me, a lot of my issues with that is the fact that we tend to live at social media and think this is what it is. When it isn't necessarily so. Yeah. Because most Americans aren't going on social media. They're going on cable TV. Yeah. Right. Most Americans who are voting. Most of them who are. They're going on Newsmax. Yeah. Who are in Newsmax. Most of them who are actually there aren't actually getting their news from TikTok. They think TikTok middle-aged American millennials, boomers aren't going on TikTok. Yeah. To hear their news. Right. So even looking at Kamala HQ's TikTok and seeing the response to that. I've heard a lot of people say, well, Kamala was too like funny. She was like that. She wasn't too serious for often. She was laughing all the time. She was laughing all the time. So she was cackling was the word for it. She wasn't serious. And that used to piss me the fuck off. Because if you're comparing her to a Donald Trump who cannot form two concrete sentences. What the fuck are we talking about here? What are we talking about? You know what I mean? So this was my logic. Yeah. I just don't get it. And I think that's what I realized. Oh yeah. America isn't ready for it. It's ready for a woman, a female president, a black president. It isn't ready for progress. Right. Because even when you look at Jubilee on YouTube, feel like it's a Jubilee's like this channel. It brings a lot of like conversations to the forefront of people who are on it. That was very enlightening. I think they were a huge problem with this election too. Because I think what they ended up doing was putting to the forefront really ridiculous arguments that made no sense. At all with regards to this election. And what you see folks like that who think so strongly about things are absolutely not even true. You realize, oh yeah, no, she was never going to win this. It was just not in her favor. Right. And I just we're going to talk about like the percentage of the people that like voted and all that stuff too. But what you just said, right, about she was never going to be president and America wasn't ready. After the election, those of you that were in viral. Yeah. Right. I want to put that video in your thoughts. Hey, bitch. We control your bodies. Guess what? Guys win again. And they will never ever be a female president. Never. There will never be a female president ever. We will keep you down forever. You will never control your own bodies. You will never be the president of the global empire. Never going to happen, sweetie. Your body. Our choice. Your body. Our choice. Your body. Our choice. All day. Every day. There's this moment. Talks. I will ask in the face of danger. Ha, ha, ha, ha. From my kick. So that guy is a known, like, you know, white supremacist. And it's so interesting because that video was played on the news. You know, I keep hearing your body, our choice. Your body, our choice. Your body, our choice. Your body, our choice. No, he said mine. He said our choice, too. He was your body, our choice. Like, our choice is a man. Right. There is no word except for disgusted. Right. Disgusted that, the people frustrated at the women who voted for people like this in office. Um, the scariest population of people in America are white men. Yeah. I say that with my chest and I mean that. Yeah. The scariest population of people are white men and the most terrified are also white men, right. Because I saw a video in an interview of this guy, who was talking about, I was done Lenin reposted it. And I was talking about a guy saying like, oh, like, our population with breeding and all this stuff. So like, wanted to make sure like why people were not the minority in their own country, in their own country. In a country that was never their own in the first place. Because America is not a white man's land. Not even close. Not even close, right? It wasn't even built with white people's hands too. I think Trump is a huge manifestation of what the reality of living in America is. And it's so frustrating for me, because I'm an immigrant talking about this and it's doing terrifying that I'm thinking I have the balls to talk about this, right? But I'm an immigrant talking about this. And I see what Trump is doing. And I, in many ways, want to applaud him for it. Because what he's doing is the most capitalist thing you could do for a country like America is tell those people exactly what they want to hear. And make money off of it. At no point in time, as he ever said otherwise, you know what I mean? And he's doing exactly what they want. And that's the actual reality of living in America. That's what that video is where we're going to be. Because that's one thing he's good at. And I think that's something I've noticed. Is he never, he's not bringing out his own thoughts. It's not his thoughts. He's saying exactly. And I think that idea of like before the election, people thought that this guy is just like, he's just talking. Yeah, he's just chatting shit. Well, think about it. Because like Trump is racist, right? He's racist. He's racist white men who has a lot of money. And then Barack Obama happened. And he was just, excuse me, such a poser of who Barack Obama was. Yeah, it upsets him so much. It upsets him so much. So for him, even that attack on himself is like, I'm going to show that I am in charge. I am this, I am that. And for him to replace Obama in office was an absolute slap in the face of progressives everywhere. Right. Because I remember thinking, OK, after Obama, America is going in a different direction. What happened after Obama was there was already a gap with the American population, right? People who are really progressive, people who are like, this is too much, too fast. And Trump said, they could have either gone and said, a person who was like, oh, you know, we're going to continue this on and show support and have respect and debate accordingly. But instead of going that way, Trump said, I see this divide. I want to double down on it. I want to make this wider. I want to make this bigger. I want to make this more. And that is what they became. It became opposing sides. The different kinds of Republicans have always been respectful. Like there might be some of my jobs here and there are throws in policy. In policy has always been respectful. And I think Obama was that shift of, whoa, y'all did too much now. A black man in office, a Negro in office was too much for America. And I think we saw Obama in office and thought, change it, come. But when Obama won, and when Trump won in 2016, I was still in college then, right? And I remember when he won, the shift was palpable. Because I wasn't Louisiana at the time. The shift was palpable in the way people spoke about. Wait, was Trump in success in 2020? 2016. Yeah, that was Trump and Hillary. Hillary, right? Because I remember, at that point in time, I had a big in college, she was a white guy who like me and him were really close. Like that was like my friend, my partner. I'm a little international student. And I remember like Trump won a new guy and said to our faces, now it's time for you all to go back to Africa. And I said, yay! Somebody who I broke bread with, someone who I knew, someone who I thought cared about me. And that was a quick reminder that it's all a facade. It's a mask. A lot of people around who you think are your people aren't. And that is literally the definition of what a Trump America is. The mask is finally removed. The people who you thought are hiding, they are feelings about you aren't hiding anymore. It's in plain sight. And I don't know if I'm grateful for that, right? Because now, at least I know what I'm dealing with. And I think we tend to feel very terrified. By the same time, at least now we know. I'm not going to walk around the streets thinking, oh yeah, you really care about me, you don't. You don't care about black people, about gay people, about women's rights, about equality. None of that is true. The America that is right now is an America that actually wants nothing to do with minorities or progress or anything about that. The America currently right now is America that just wants to be a white man's land. And that's a terrifying fact to face. And it also feels very debilitating. To that some point, we're going to have to realize, do we fight back, right? Are we going to stay to fight back? And absolutely, because we deserve to be here. This world, this melting pot is a melting pot for the reason we built this country. My ancestors built this damn country, you know what I mean? So at some point, we're going to fight back. And we are fighting back. Like I saw Kamala Harris, like her concession speech and her walk away was the walk away with a black woman who was like, oh, I'll be back. And we're ready for that fight. Well, of course, we're still feeling a bit sad about it. And I feel like that is also respectable. Like I understand, like I know a lot of black women everywhere is what we're feeling exhausted by the conversations we're having. We're feeling like we can't keep fighting this fight for other people. Like honestly, like ticket goal, we have to fight. Which is like, that's the existence, right? And I think because our existence is in itself a global resistance. Like me sitting here today having this podcast is my little way of showing resistance to a country that has constantly told me, I am now welcome here. But I deserve to be here. Like we all do, right? And democracy teaches us that we want to hear all sides. But I don't think a side that is telling me I shouldn't exist is a side I want to listen to. I think that's my issue with Trump America. That Trump America keeps telling folks what to do about themselves, how to take away their choices, how to not be who they are. That's why I can't understand. It's different if this is policy that actually matters. What is it? It feels like just jobs at a womanhood and a personhood and about immigration and stuff that actually affects your life and family. Life and family. It is not. Like there's no love in any of the conversations. No, there's no whatsoever. And I think that's upsetting. But also in Africa, I'm like, oh yeah, this is, this is our people. Like yeah. I want us to dream of it. Dream. Just a little bit, right? Tell me from your perspective, right? OK. What would have, like, having, in my account, the highest one, right? What would have been like? God, in our immigration, they would have been insane. Right? How long are Harris presidency? Honestly, I can't dream of it. Isn't that crazy? Yeah. Wow, don't hold. I can't think of that. And I'm normally saying that because of what I'm doing, I'm generally serious. Because I feel like when we were talking in other episodes about Kamala Harris presidency, you could picture it, maybe. I don't think I ever could. Maybe that's why I always thought she wasn't going to win. Because in a barat, when it was a barat, and I hate comparing the two, because there's two very different individuals. But I think around that time, we all could feel a change that was needed. I think this time around, it felt like we were fighting against a brick wall. And I think what the issue was for me is, I felt like it was so disrespectful that she had to be going toe-to-toe with Adonal Trump. If it was the JD Vans, if it was a Mitt Romney, if it was any other Republican candidate, I might have different reasonings or thoughts about that situation. Because for me, that makes sense. It feels like two people who have worked really hard to get here as politicians in their own right. And a politician views about something. But again, they can work with. I think the fact that it was a Trump made me feel like the fact that America could, again, put someone at Donald Trump who was a convicted felon, who does not have any policies that actually help the entirety of America, or a certain group of people, put them against a woman who was asked qualified as she was. I couldn't dream of a country where she would lead in that way. I couldn't think it was ready to exist yet. I still don't think so. Because after a four year, four years of Trump now, I don't know what America would look like in 2028. I don't know, because four years of Trump is a long time. It's a long time. It's a long time. A lot of the policies that we hear in Project 2025, they're scary. They have a Republican Senate, a Republican House, a Republican Supreme Court. Again, I don't think politics or policies should feel this terrifying. Have you seen this cabinet? Yeah, it's terrifying. I don't think politics, government, should feel this terrifying, because the whole idea of having two party systems or multiple party systems is, even if your policy isn't in place, you don't feel unsafe. Right. In America right now, I think if you are a person of color, unless you are rich, unless you are rich, you should not be feeling safe in Trump America. And I think it's so frustrating when I see the one of people who voted for Trump, especially immigrants, people of color who voted for Trump, because the misguided idea that this, a Trump's America would have your back is crazy. Yeah. It's absurd. Or even if you think, right? Yeah. I have an clear understanding of the people who is going to affect this. Yeah. Right. And I think that I can't on see that, because when I think about, I was already thinking, oh my god, I'm gonna be 40, you know, because there's this dream, right? We came to America and having this dream of wanting to grow a family here, right? Because obviously, you're not trying to go back home, right? And being able to tell your children, and be like, you're like, you live in a country where you had a dream, you came here, you succeeded, and this country elected a woman to be the president. And I think that was a robbery. But I also think that a lot of people didn't even think the dream was possible, so they didn't fight as hard. I think they fought. Because the people who fought fought. Yeah. I think, I'm telling you, I think people fought this time. I think Kamala had a real shot of winning. Because he just said something about Obama, right? Yeah. And I think if you remember Obama's rise, starting in 2004, right? So that's the thing. So a lot of people's conversations right now are they wish Biden had put her in early on. I think that would have given them more time to break her down. So I think it was a safe bet. No, a safe bet. I think it was a risky bet for her at the time they did. Because the momentum was there. And the pressure, we just got to do this now. Because I think the worry was, if we give them enough time, they will break this woman down to where there's no possibility that we want to turn the primary issue would have lost. And I think that was what was the risky bet. And I think it still paid off. I also think if we look at Trump's side of things, he has Elon Musk, right? And just the tech giants that are behind him on Trump's election, because again, a Trump America is for folks who are rich. Like that is the idea generally. The financial growth that they can amass under Trump. And I think people are genuinely, so someone talked about like senators, right? And a little John Stewart was interviewing the senator. And the senator said, the guy decided not to run. And this election, right? We said the reason he decided not to is because he doesn't think there's any senator on the Republican side who can go against Trump. Because on the grassroots level, they need to actually go against Trump. There's no way you can win the election. And I think he used that to explain how you notice how a lot of all the senators previously were like, this guy is not fit to win all of these things. They also voted to impeach him. And now all of a sudden, he's back. So I think I'd draw the parallel of African politics now, and how it's full circle. Because I think it's so funny how America would used to look down on us for our politics, and how, sort of messy those relationships used to, like, are, right? When you're like, why can't democracy be so easy? Like America is the foremost democratic government, blah, blah, blah, blah. And we see it happening right now with Trump. That amassing of grassroots support. That honestly, the idea of like him storming the Capitol with his supporters then, and still being able to win a convicted felon winning. And we realize this is what democracy is actually supposed to be. I don't know, but it's something you think about. I think that's one of the, it's probably a socialist thing that maybe needs to be discussed a lot more. I think that's one of the attributes of democracy, right? The fact that Trump can exist, his popularity is scary. And a lot of people look at him, and they're like, he's a citizen. Yeah. He has rights. Yeah. He has freedom. I wish that was also given to someone who wasn't, because Trump, he's also a white man. I don't think that the same respect we reported to him if he wasn't a white man. OK, so you have a comment here, so let me read it. As a Democrat, I voted God. I voted Trump, and Chris was pretty close to describing why I voted this way. Being part African-American, I thought the media told me I was racist on a big hit, or just playing stupid for how I voted. Guess what? That pushed me to the ballot box. I may have stayed home. But with Trump, I knew what I would get. My vote counts, and no one should bully me. I may feel compelled to vote a certain way. I'm an individual. I'm an American. I never even heard anything from Harris that showed me any kind of wisdom or plans to help the American community. I'm exhausted of being black or male or in any box. I'm just an American. I wasn't being an American. Not a black American, just a person. Trump makes me feel like a person that matters. When the media in opposition to Trump lies, I'm just going to choose Trump. I say to myself and others, if they do that with him, what do they say of me and Ors? I want an honest man to meet us. Trump was more honest. He doesn't pattern the way that he's demeaning. Camila changed her accent from town to town. Promises one line as well. Trump gives detailed plans. I hope he appreciates the Lord that he does good. But even if he doesn't, I think he'll be better than Harris. For me, she's a guaranteed liar. He brings some hope. Honestly, you can't argue with this comment because it's simply not true. You know, I'm going to get this not facts. But the person who views it. That's the thing. So I remember I talked about, I don't know what I've talked about this that the beauty of a Trump in office is that what he's been able to do is tell people, I am different. And you should follow him because I am different. And that's it. Because we all don't like politicians. We've been bred to not like politicians. We don't like politics. Politics is messy. Our politicians are not to be trusted. They lie to us. We know that for a fact. So the beauty of a Trump when he first came on is, these people are terrible. I speak the way I am. So see someone who wants to be present and tell you, shut up. Or you're not listening. I'm going to walk out and move in that way. Seems very audacious. This is a breach of the status quo. Something different that we're used to. That makes sense, right? What I don't get is when I have conversations with people and they tell me that Trump tells us the truth. That is not true. Trump has not been speaking full sentences. You know what I mean? And this is not me being a Harris or Trump support. This is me just stating facts. Like, when people talk about it on this man. Like an honest man is crazy. He's never been released as tax returns. He really is crazy. You know what I mean? I think that to me is when my frustrations lie. And also the fact that people talk about, oh, I just want to be an American. I don't want to be black. I don't care that she's female, whatever, whatever. These same people who push labels on folks in society once were rebelling against these labels. But one thing's for certain, if you're not a white man or a white woman, you're not American in Trump's America. And that's a fact. So no matter what you think, if you're looking at saying, I don't want to be black, I don't want to be this. I just want to be an American. If you ask any Trump supporter what an American is, I bet you it would not tell you it looks like you, if he looked like me. No. Or if you're not, like a full white man or woman. I'm just letting you know that's a fact. So even when I read stuff like this, I get frustrated I was, I wish you knew. Because a Trump America doesn't leave space for someone like me to exist. And this is not me being pandering or me being, you know, lying or gas. This is, this is a literal fact. You've seen that over and over in the policies that have been enacted and the fact that women don't have rights to choose anymore. Our bodies are not ours, you see videos. And my thing is, I don't understand it. I don't understand it. I can't wrap my head around the fact that a president is it was to say such crazy things and is allowed to lead all the people, right? Because I think that's the difference in like a Harris versus a Trump right, the way they describe the people who they're leading. And that to me is what is driving me crazy about Trump's America. It's like people really look at this man and think, oh yeah, he's going to lead all of us. He is not in any way. So in America in four years, it's definitely not going to look like an America where minorities are welcome anymore. And this is not me being like, I pulled all of it. This is just facts. All right, let's move on. Sorry, I feel like it's not a big rant about that. No, like, it's. Ooh, okay. Let's talk about how he won. Okay. Because this is someone who, and I love, you know, looking back at 2016, right? I think here's the thing before you start that. I think Trump won, not by fighting logic, right? And because I also think he won because of the over, over sensationalism that the liberal media put around him. Like right now, I can tell you, yeah, he's a felon. I can't tell you why he's a felon, right? I can tell you he's a criminal. I can't tell you why he's a criminal. The over-socialized idea of what this man is that Trump is an enigma to a lot of people now. So you can't catch a Trump supporter by saying, oh, he's a criminal. Okay, Kamala Harris is a criminal too. What does she do? Well, she did, that's it. She's the, where is it? A guaranteed liar. Yeah, fuck does that mean? You know what I'm saying? So like, for me, when we talk about like why he was reelected, whether it's like racism or women's rights and stuff like that, those aren't things now that we've been told will make someone not a good president. Because if you're looking at the facts, everyone said Trump is not going to be a good president. His entire cabinet told y'all that they quit on him. The last time he was president because he was not a good president. Like, this is facts. But again, sensationalizing him as a person is what is going in there. We've seen a lot of that in like different things. Are we watching different TVs? Yes, so for sure. Because let me give you an example, right? Like, in 2016, Trump said Hillary was a criminal. So it was a crook, right? That was the whole thing. Arrest her. And that was the first thing he said, once he gets into office, he painted this picture of a bad Hillary. And how a secretary of state she was like the gangster. And then he won. And then he pursued her with everything you got, right? Nothing happened. In 2020, it was Hunter Biden and how Biden is colluding with Russia and everything. And it's not going into office, right? He wasn't ditched. Yeah. Like, now he has what, 34 counts. Oh, this was on the news. Because there's arguments of yes, I agree. Like the media, like, for profit, sensationalizing him and just like, they made him popular. The beast that is Donald Trump. Not even now. From the inception of like, it was always big because of the media. They created this. Yeah. And they keep doing it. Yeah. Because the moment he won, it's like, oh, Kamala should have done this. Oh, she should have done that. Yeah. And I'm like, are you guys looking at it? This might just want the popular votes. Like, 50% plus percent of Americans want this man. In office. Terrifying. OK, let's look at, well, yeah, I think. I don't know. I feel like we're going to talk in circles here. Because honestly, even like this podcast, for example, folks who are listening to this podcast wouldn't probably be Trump supporters. Or like, and I mean, Trump supporters, like, the folks who actually voted for him who are in these swing states and in these like battleground states. What did we expect them? We should click right now. For sure. OK, let's see. Let's see what we come up with. Yeah. Trump won. See what we will say. Maybe we should do that. Just get different votes to listen to. We're like, let's talk about her disadvantages, right? Camila? Yes. She's Camila. Camila. Camila? That exactly it. I might be saying that because I can't pronounce your name, but I'm telling you, like, the amount of times I would see short clips online, basically just saying, how do you pronounce Camila? Camila, Camila, Camila, Camila? That alone, like, that takes me back to like corporate America. When even as a qualified person, your name would be like, oh, what is your name again? Oh, I don't care. I don't care. Oh, wait. Can you pronounce that? Can you say that again? Oh, can I just call you this? That alone showed a very huge lack of respect for someone who is the vice president of the United States. You are telling me you could not think to learn her name. I saw a picture. Who saw it? The picture said red next for Obama. Yeah. I think that's a, because yes, people say, and you know, she spoke about abortion too much. Yeah. She, you know, used celebrities. I don't think that. I think he did the same thing. Yes, yes, right, right. Exactly, right? I remember, I think it's not the argument somewhere. Someone told me how like, you know, Trump, like, Camila was always just going on TV and doing this. I'm like, the only reason you guys are seeing Camila on TV is because a lot of the mainstream media that you're watching is liberal. She's an SNL, because SNL is pretty heavily liberal. She's on the daily show. I don't think she's on the daily show, but she's, they're talking about her because they're lead heavily liberal. Trump was all over Joe Rogan. And this guy, the white guy, the one who was like, who gave him a Rolex watch? Who? I forgot, Alex. No, I forget his name. Well, is this like white concert of it, so I'm a certain guy? I don't know, I don't think that's it. Maybe. Well, like, he also went on a lot of like, far-right media. Very far-right. Very far-right media. And that's what I'm telling you. I don't know where we went to call, Daddy. That was it. And even that, just specifically, we to the white women. That's it. That was it. You see the difference? I think they both were selling into their market. Camila was a lot of mainstream. But again, the people who were voting for Trump, who were actually voting in America, aren't mainstream, right? Because a lot of times, what you're consuming in the mainstream is oftentimes a minority of what the actual majority population is looking at. That's why I keep telling folks, people tell me, oh, America is so great because they love it. No, no, no, no. To be gay in America, even though it seems like, oh, it seems like when it was legalized, it's still frowned upon in a lot of states in America. To be a woman and not be married. It's still frowned upon. That's a perk. Upon tip. To be, to having a, I'm, let's come to you. I was in do, you know what? You're in do, man. In my head, I'm like, come, I'm going to become president. And then who, you know who's going to run next? Who? Pete. Pete Buttigieg is Correa. And AOC, he's right president. That's, that's what I was thinking in my head. I'm not, he's like, he's so good. So great. Doesn't matter. OK. Let's, let's make this a little fun. I heard of the 4B movement. Yeah, I've heard of it. I saw the, I saw the 4B movement conversation. Let me play this video. So since the election results, a lot of American women have been turning to South Korea's 4B movement, and it's gaining a lot of popularity. But do you guys actually know what the 4B movement is and how South Korean women got to this point? This is going to be an in-depth video so stick with me, guys. So what does P mean in Korean? Wait, I'm not going to just say I'm going in the video. OK. OK. So what people are trying to do now is like, they're like, you know, no sex. Oh, I saw it. Yeah, I saw that. You know, what do you think about that? You guys like, I'm like, you know the 4B movement, with the internet as a society right now. I'm a jokalore. A jokalore. You think everything is fine. And they don't understand like the gravity and like how things actually impact. Because like, why is this a thing? And people actually shaving their heads. No, the 4B movement is a thing. But again, like what she said, I don't, I think America is a very entitled space to be in, right? Because we can still exist. Like even like living in New York, we have bubbles. So like, Kali is a bubble. But like, America too in that way is just very interesting how even looking at the women talking about the 4B movement and just how funny it is for TikTok. I go raise, go on, take a look right now and say, oh my god, you guys, I voted for Kamala Harris. I'm so sorry, the black woman don't be mad at me. And I still wouldn't win for Donald Trump and kept it moving. That's true. That's the reality of a lot of situations here in this country. So even like scene folks talking about. Was that shit? What? Was that shit? Shade? Yeah. That's really shade. It feels like shade. It did. But yeah, I think it's interesting. So no, that made me chuckle a little bit. Because I don't think America is right. I don't think we're even there yet, right? Because if we were, Kamala Harris would have been president. If we were in a 4B movement, I sure would say. I sure would say. That movement was I think. I think even too many women still feel like they don't deserve a voice in the space. And white men and men should oftentimes rule their bodies. They believe in the church and the state coming together. There's so much nuance within politics in America for us to even get to the point of a 4B movement being something of a reality here. And the question talks to me. What do you think about this whole Christian nationalism thing? I think religion as a way would always find a way to come back into the discourse of church or the state because religion has a big chokehold on society. That's the religion is the first and foremost only tool that has been proven to work and getting a group of people to listen and follow. You know what I mean? Right, right. What else? Because any other thing is this probably fear-based. Yes. Religion is the only thing that has been proven. So I think religion will always have a pace, whether that's Christian nationalism, whether that's like, you see it with the Taliban and Afghanistan, religion always will be a tool to control. And so I'm not shocked by it. I think it's high time. America has brought it back, honestly, because for like, you hear it all say about how America went too far left too quickly. Now they're trying to come back to the center. I don't know what that means. I just wish the world would just let other people live and do their, just be them. I don't think it's possible. So on the world could dream. I mean, obviously we know, like, majority of white men voted for karma. Yes. majority of white women. A lot of the new voters are voted for Trump. Yes. Let's say vote for karma. A vote for Trump. Yes. A lot of new voters are voted for. Yeah, but I think the interesting thing about La Rue, who say they voted for Trump is policy. So the unfortunate thing about the Democratic Party is they're not known to be the financial party, right? Because in a democratic society, there shouldn't be a huge wealth gap, right? It generally should be more of a socialist sort of process. I think the Republican Party focuses more on like financial gain and financial support. But they never, but they're not the, like, the Democratic Party are the ones that actually like. Yeah, but they wouldn't want to share that. Yeah. Because people don't understand like, they don't know how it works. They don't know how it works. I don't think a lot of people know how the economy works. Because even I didn't, I had no common sense. I shouldn't say that because that's what I mean sometimes. The point is a lot of people who are like new voting, they're looking at, okay, well, what party is going to give me my money? And a lot of times if you see Trump a successful businessman, and I put, if you're not watching this, I put successful in quote because Trump has been known to have a ton of failed businesses. They put him in office because they think he can change that trajectory and make them money. I don't think that's realistic. I don't think that's true. So when you see like a huge population of Latino voters, Asian voters, even, you know, black voters, Nigerian immigrants voting for Trump, that makes sense, right? That makes sense that a country that will elect to know who will also elect a Donald Trump. That's not far-fetched. I think I have conversations with, a few friends who are like Latino, who voted for Trump. Also, Latino population also is heavily Catholic. And that's true. That's true. And I think that's the thing, right? Because a lot of immigrants are also very conservative. Yes. So I think a democratic society looks like, from my perspective, looks like people do whatever they want. They have choices. A Trump America takes the choice away from you and puts it into the government. And I think people want that. So I have a lot of friends online when I see their servers that like, yeah, I'm finally, Kamala's terrible policies about children having this and about parents doing about abortion like let the government decide. There's a slippery slope when you let the government start deciding, right? Especially a government that's fully dominated by cis-head white men, right? A world is a better place when you're loved to have choices for their own selves. But I also think like, that's a Kumbaya world. And the issue with democracy party right now is Kumbaya isn't going to sell because people want strong. They want their leaders to be hard and rigid and tell them exactly how it is. And a democratic society doesn't allow for that. If anything, it allows for more voices into the space, into the room, to voice their opinions. And that slows down policies. Like, we think about it from the good place, right? I'm going to hopefully find that in the video before I have time to put it in this video. When the good place, the good place is really incredible sitcom show where they went to the good place and they finally were telling the good place like, there's an issue with the voting system. People are going to hell. It's not working out. And they were like, yeah, we're going to get to it in a million years, like a thousand years to just deliberate. And they were like, no, we need an answer now. The ideas with the democratic society, decisions aren't made quickly because you're supposed to hear everyone's voices, which essentially slows things down. What, and more of what the Republican on Trump America is telling you, it's Trump is the guy. Let's say like, I don't want to use the word tyranny, but essentially like, this is the person who's going to tell you exactly how it is. This is how we're going to do it, no thing else matters, and then we go from there. Yeah, I think that's the frustrating part. And so that's why I don't have an answer. I'm not 100% on Kamala Harris's policies. I'm not saying 100% on Donald Trump because he has no policies that I would affect me anyway. Well, I will say, I am someone who's going to benefit more from the Trump America in terms of financially than I would in the Harris America. However, long term, I will benefit more from the Harris America than I would in terms of long term. Because the community will be different. The community will be richer. People will be richer. Life will be a lot easier. And I think one of the last I want to talk about is the conversations now around people losing friends and family around like different opinions. I think here's the thing. A difference of opinion is okay when it doesn't negate my existence. And I think that's my biggest issue. I think what is ended up happening is a Trump America isn't just a, I want more taxes, I want less taxes, or I want more housing or less housing, no social security, more social security. It's not necessarily about policies are economic or financial or supportive of anything other than just targeting basic human rights. Yeah. I don't want me to be lectured enough for me. A Trump America now tells me as a black woman I shouldn't exist. You might think of that as dramatic, but it is fact. The America I know now doesn't feel safe for me to exist in as an immigrant, as a black woman, as an immigrant, as a Muslim, you know, as someone who's queer, like it just doesn't allow me to exist. As a woman, you know, with just, when I keep thinking of the guy's chance, like your body, our choice, your body, our choice, and that feels so true for every single facet of my life now, like even as an immigrant, if I ever guest up at the border, my body is their choice. They can send me wherever the fuck they want to send me to. They can put me in a cage. They can put kids in a cage. If the police wants to stop black people on the streets, they can do so now in America that Trump is championing for. Sundown towns exists now and are feeling really proud to not want black people in their spaces. It's no one mixed people in their spaces. In a Trump America, that is the norm. And forgive me if I see that and I'm not scared or I can be friends with you anymore because you voted for someone like that into office because of whatever the fuck you think you're doing. Because if at all a difference in opinion isn't that, that's not a difference in opinion. That's you telling me, blame me, you hate me and you don't want me to exist. So I think that's my two cents on the matter. I'm sad, I'm heartbroken. The Kamala Harris didn't win. I'm also just proud to be a black woman because we always stand on business. So I'm the best people you know are black women. And we always will write for each other. And so when I saw a lot of black women just being so exhausted by voting and that election, I think, yeah, this sounds about right. This is our reality half of the time anyways. I don't know when America is going to wake up. I'm terrified to see if Trump is going to step down in in 2028. I'm very curious to see that will happen. It'll be fun to see what that looks like and who's going to take over from that. But also part of me is also excited that he's done his second term and that's done. Because now maybe I don't know who can take over from Trump and I think maybe this was just a blip in the American political history you never know. And hopefully maybe one day would have our first female president. Hopefully she's black. Maybe she won't be. You never know in America, you never f***ing. Thanks so much for today's episode, you guys. We love you so very much. And let us know your opinions. I think we all have very, very strong opinions about the selection, the selection cycle. I want to know your thoughts as always, keep a respectful and I will see you in my next episode. Love you guys. And was I too loud in this one? Yeah. You remember you cried for a minute? Bye guys. And it's freezing tunnels. Jesus.