Cancel Culture & The Cost of Being Loud ONLINE - Ep 48

Hey, pod fam. Welcome back to my slot of the podcast. It's Sophie aka the mother freaking oddity. I am going on a two, three, four, five week break jk. It would be more than two or three or four or five. I'm going on the break because your girl has not been taking care of herself and that's okay. I'm going to make sure I'm okay by the time I get back. So please enjoy the last episodes, go binge on all the episodes that we've recorded before this and I promise I'll be seeing you guys soon. If you're watching this, happy holidays, Merry Christmas, happy Hanukkah, happy holidays, happy new year. I miss you, pod fam. I love this podcast. I can't wait to be back. More guests, more interviews, my love. Bye. Bye. Welcome to my mind to loud the podcast. Are you done? You're so large. I know. It's so difficult. Hey, odd fam. Welcome back to my two loud the podcast with Sophie, aka the mother freaking auditing reunited at last with my favorite person in the entire world. Are you on your fucking phone right now? No, I'm not actually. What are you doing? What am I seeing right here? What's up? What are you doing? Oh, you changed the last statement? Yeah. Oh, okay. I was like, I thought was the wrong thing. I was open. No, it's my podcast. I don't know what I'm doing. Okay. God, guys, welcome back to the episode. Please, I'm just joking. I'm not a mean girl. What are we going to carry that now? Say, because at this point, guys, there's so much for us to catch up on. First of all, I look rough, so I'm not going to show my eyes. I hope you can see them through my glasses though. But welcome back to the podcast. I feel like I look like a crazy person with this tiny ass mic in my ears, but don't know what it said. This looks cool. So if you guys think he's lying, let me know in the comments. Loud opinion of the day is, I think game nights have become so sexual. Like, it doesn't need to be that serious. Like, sometimes it's okay to just play mafia instead of playing true to a day or seven heavens and heavens, I'd be seven nights in heaven and shit like that. I always say that because it's a disembodied going on right now, and I've gone so many invites already to go to game nights, and they're all usually like, oh, your phones are going to be taken away. And I'm like, why? Why can't we actually go somewhere? We should play games where people are fighting and yelling. And it's fun and it's not about sex or a man and a woman or we're not having clothes or take off your clothes. You know what I mean? Why are you lost in thought, Donald? Wait, did you intro me already? I, nigga, they can fucking see your face. What are you talking about? What was it, Trey? Why are you actually like a stranger on the podcast? What is wrong with you? Okay, first of all, I have a few things to address. What? Let's talk to you with the holding of this thing. I said, because you're holding it on the right hand. Does that mean I have to hold it on the left hand? No. Just hold it whatever. Yeah. Why are you actually like, you've not held the mic before? Oh my God. Hi guys. Welcome back to the podcast. I am back in New York, which means I am back on the green couch that is like the OG green couch with our favorite producer, friend. At this point, honestly, Donald was considered, I'm considered you like one of my closest friends now. I feel like we've gone, we've gone to that stage. I'm going off the ranks. I think so. I really think like, because I feel like at some point, I would say like you were more of like a coworker than a friend to me. And then you were, well, actually, let me take that back. First of all, you were a really close friend to me. And then we became co-workers. And then we became co-workers, friends. And I was like, the relationship was like 60% co-worker, 40% friend. And then it became 80% friend, 20% co-worker. And then we had a big fight. And then it became 80% co-worker, 20% friend. And then now I feel like we're back to like 70% friend, 30% co-worker. I agree. Right? I feel the same way to you. I owe it to my maturity. I feel like I've matured. I have matured a lot more than you have matured. I'm not saying this is this. I'm not saying you've no matured. I'm not saying you've no matured. I'm not saying you've no matured. I'm just saying like I've matured. In terms of being friends. Donald is a better friend. Yes. You are a better friend. And honestly, with the shit I have been through this year, I feel like you're not, I blame you. I actually blame you, Donald, because I feel like, because I saw you're how much you improved being a better friend and like the things You've not started doing, just being not selfish, because all those really so, not really badly selfish. Okay, yeah. Because it was very bad to me. It's so much like, you'll be like, can you help me do something? I'm just gonna like, like, why? I don't know, it's not necessarily, you're not a selfless person. And so we had big fights about like how much you prioritize yourself and your well-being, which is valid, but I am learning that people will always choose themselves. And there are people like me, whose brains aren't wired that way. So I would always choose somebody else before myself. And I think I get that from my mom too. So I blame you because you, I feel like, have taught me to appreciate the fact that the people in my life who might start off being selfish and they could change. I think Tyga, I know, is another friend of mine. I think we talked about it a little bit on the podcast with him, who was also like very selfish and then when we became friends he changed. And that's why I feel like I expected the pattern when I met other people who might have been selfish and realizing that, oh, no, everybody's willing to change and be selfless. People are always going to just, some people are just, are people going to take the time, right? Because I think I can't speak for other genders, but I think like it's, there's a certain way that like men are taught how to be friends with other men. Yeah. I think when you're being friends with a woman and not about actually being friends, you want to hit off? Lane properly, but it sounds good, can we say? Yeah, but when you're being friends with the opposite gender, when you're actually trying to be friends, there's a different level that you need to get to. And I think that was the learning, that was the curve. Because I feel like with male friendships, a lot of my male friends, we actually don't have the conversations. We kind of have this Tyga petite thing where it's like, I know that I'm asking you if you're good and you know that I know that you're good. Yeah, it's kind of like, we're not actually speaking about the problem. Yeah, you just kind of accept he gets like, very bad. This is not good. It's not good at all. Yeah, this is not saying that like, but this is what happens. Yeah. So on the flip side, where it's like, okay, now conversations need to be had. Yeah. Teams need to be said. It's kind of like, I remember the first time you were like, oh, like, why you didn't send me anything or anything for, I don't know if like, I think you hit like, it was, Oh, I hit a milestone and I just felt alone, not celebrating. No, no, no, I think what our first fight was actually was, I think you forgot that I didn't have anyone here. Yes. And so I don't know how the community here, because he went to school in New York, he has a siblings here, he has a partner here, like you had a life here. And in my head, I was just like, as my friend, at least like try to bring me in. Like, invite me with your friend. So like, invite me with you, like, I don't know, like, I wasn't thinking about it from that. You were not thinking about it from that angle. So I remember just feeling like isolated when like, you'd say you're celebrating something and I'll be like, I didn't want to ask if I could come because you didn't offer. And I think I'll always be salty about that. And then I realized after what like, it just, you also were like, you weren't sure if I would want to come. Right. Cause you know, celebrity status or whatever. So. Sorry. What's this, I just wait here. I remember one time. Okay. The very first thing you ever got me. I think. Yes, it was something we had hits. We hit a thousand subscribers. Oh, we did. We hit a thousand subscribers and I'm like, okay, we've hit a thousand subscribers. I was on the React channel. And next thing you're like, I just, it was, I don't want to shout the company drizzle, right? It did. Oh, it was drizzle. Oh, you have a package coming in. I'm like, I don't even know what drizzle was. Yeah. So you asked me, you're like, what's happening? And next thing was champagne. Like, nobody's ever bought me champagne. See guys, I need to understand something. Nobody buys me anything. Like I said from like, people don't like. Well, also, I feel like. The last time someone just like randomly sent me money, like, don't know, he has $5,000. Not $5,000 because, oh, like, you have to give me this money back. Or $5,000, because we're about to do this shoot. Like, he has five, even my rich friends, even the friends who are like, they're super rich and they have to get pretty status. Still. Is that shade? It's not shade. Did you do that too? What's going on? Chicks. What? I was like, wait a minute. OK, boy. Hi, guys. First of all, that was a crazy interest in the podcast. I feel like, guys, I'm just not feeling good. Yeah, this episode is going to be therapeutic for you. You think so? I feel like it would be. OK, let me catch you guys up. So I am in New York now. If you're new here, hi. My name is Sophie. This is my podcast. That sounds like I'm on the vlog channel for some freaking reason. If you're not caught up on the podcast, what my life has been recently. I just got back from Houston. And I've been traveling. So put myself in storage. We all know about that. In my personal life, at least, put myself in storage. And I've been like moving around a lot. And I went to London, the Scotland, the LA, the Nigeria, and did Houston. And I'm back in New York. And I'm heading out for Deziti Senba, which is like when everybody goes to Ghana and Nigeria, Cape Town to have fun for the holidays. Yeah. But that's coming up really soon. But I went to Houston. And I think from LA, LA was very, because I've always told Donald I think I wanted to move. I thought I wanted to live in LA. And I think it was because for me, I really want to get into acting and getting to entertainment. And LA feels like the place to be. So I went to LA, stay there for a month, try to see if that was my vibe. And I just didn't like it. The weather was not the best when I was around. But also, I think it was too far apart. Yeah, I don't know. It just felt too far apart from it. But you had a car that you were driving me. Yeah, even still. I didn't like, New York is so special. I don't like, New York is so special. I enjoy how small New York feels to me. Even when I'm in my apartment, it's like a tiny apartment in this really crazy world. It feels like I'm just one spec in the chaos of everything. And then when I leave and travel to all these places, I still can go back to my home and my safety. Anyways, I did not enjoy LA. But I know, like, if I'm ever going to be in LA, I'm hoping it's going to be like me going and just chilling and resting and just hanging out. And if it's work, it's work, and sleep, work, sleep, that kind of thing. Did you hear someone being like, by coastal? I don't, maybe. I feel like in my dream, I want to be a weather. Because if I want to manifest something, I'll be like, I booked a TV show or acting gig in LA for like the winter months. And so then I go and stay. And I'm like, waking up for 7 a.m. call times by time is 10 p.m. I'm done with work. I'm going into my apartment. It's just being knocked out. I go to the next day for Pilates and I go for brunch or friends. And I go buy it back to the studio. Like, that will kind of be my life in LA. I think New York allows me to have more experiences here than LA does. There's a lot more to do in the city. Which is crazy because you feel like, if you've lived in New York a lot, you feel like there's, there's, it doesn't feel like you can, like, every can finish everything. Does that make sense? Like, it's like a legos to me. Like, you can't, there's the same place you can go, yeah. But I can go to the West Village today and I can spend five years in New York in the West Village and not go to everywhere. Yeah. I think that's what I mean. There's always something hidden, a Broadway show, an events, like there's a reading thing that's going on in a library. Like, it's always something people are doing in New York which makes me excited. But yeah, so that was LA. And then I went to Houston. And for y'all that don't know, I actually used to live in Houston kinda. So I'm my uncle who was, I'm in Strange from, to do a little story time. Well, I think so. So for context guys, my dad is late, my mom is a single mother. And when I was coming to America under like really terrible circumstances, she put me in the arms of this uncle. So it was basically that gonna be like, he was a father figure to me. I was like his favorite cousin or favorite niece. Yeah, his favorite niece, he was like, me and him were really close. I considered him my dad. So when I came to America, I stayed in this house, helped him raise his kids with his wife. And like, it was basically like, we're a family. And when I went to Louisiana for college, she was in Houston. So I would go for breaks, I'll go to their house and then come back. But he was a very like devout Muslim and very like strict. My uncle was very controlling. Me and him ended up just not speaking anymore. He just basically like, what is the call like, this on me essentially? Like does not speak to me because I started doing social media, locks me off everything, calls me the devil. He like hates my guts. Like from someone who was like, I was his favorite niece to like how he sees me now. It's pretty terrifying. So I still like to say, he was mine to my auntie. They got divorced because he is an asshole. She just a little bit of her 50th birthday last week. And this story is probably so typical of African families because we all go through this shit. Like we all kind of see, like we have family members who use access to them as reasons for bad behavior. And I feel like that was something I just wasn't gonna be dealing with anymore. Like my family, when I first started social media, especially being Muslim and African, they would always like want me to be controlled in a certain way and I just hated it. Anyways, my auntie got divorced from him and she just turned 50. So I went to Houston. That was the first time in four, five years that I've been back to Houston since me and him like cut off ties. Did you see him? So the last time I went, I went with an ex at the time and we went to see him because my mom had been like, she wants me to like make amends. Like me and him were really close. She hates that we don't talk. So I went to his house. At that point, he and my auntie were still together. He did not speak to me. I mean, like I went into this meant, like me and my ex at the time went to his house. My ex drove the car. I flew to Houston. My auntie said hello, the kids said hello. He was in the room. I went to the room. I said, oh, Uncle Good evening or good morning, I think. And he just looked at me. Like just like, oh, good evening, just stirred at me. And then my ex comes in and my ex greets me. And he's like, oh, how are you a good boy? It starts having full blown conversations with my ex. I want to, okay, I want to point out something, right? Well, is there a double standard? Because I saw Hassan Minaj and Malala. Is that her name? The Nobel Peace Prize winner. They have an episode just came out. And she was talking about how there's a double standard way, like, you know, because after she had won the award and everything, she goes to school and she moved to America. She started wearing jeans. And her dad wears jeans. Her brother wears jeans, where her dad had an issue with the fact that she was wearing jeans. And she wasn't like wearing like the traditional Pakistani outfit. Think about like your uncle. Is there a double standard there? Like because he's like that way to the guy. Is this, is that, is it because you're a girl? Do you think if you are a guy? No, no, no, he's a terrible judgmental person anyways. Guys, regardless of gender, like he's, my uncle is, so in my family, and I fucking, I shouldn't, let me just know, I'm gonna say most. What's a pattern that I've noticed is there's a lot of control involved. And I will say when you come from a polygamist family, like, especially the way my family and like the siblings are all set up, they've had to sort of fight for their rights to be seen in that space. I'm doing some therapy, speak right now. So I see that in my mom's siblings, a little baby and my mom too, where they're sort of trying to find control where they can. So imagine you're a middle kid, you're number seven of 30, 40 kids, and you're trying to be known. So you have to find some levels of control to find yourself to be successful. So from my uncle, I think for him, and I hate that I'm speaking about him when he can't respond back, but that's what he gets at this point. But for him, when I watched him at the time, I just, apartment was just like, I know this is like a lot of unresolved trauma from his family issues that are coming up, but it was also at my expense. Yeah. It also helps with my like, abandonment issues because the fact that like someone who I considered my dad could abandon me, I was like, damn, like, this life is really fucked up. Anyways, my auntie turned 50, so I went to celebrate her, and I think I posted a tick talk about that. Everybody was just like Sophie. You're such a girls girl because they would have thought my auntie was my blood relative, the way I was speaking about it, and I'm like, I don't think you guys understand how powerful it is to see an African woman start over, or just women start over in general. Especially after three kids, after going to, because relationships and romance and love, they're one of the most like all consuming emotions like we face as human beings, and then when you actually add life to love, and what I mean by that is, you already love someone that you have, you throw life's obstacles in the way. It's so hard to move away from that. That safety, that security, that trauma, that relationship, whatever it is. And so every woman who, whether she gets divorced after kids, whether she gets divorced, after like, you know, whatever the case may be, I just, I would always share her on. Yeah. Especially when like it was a situation she wasn't in, because I would hear the story a lot of women staying for our kids. I mean, most of our parents did that. Like we know moms whose husbands had whole families and all homes in different places. And the women were just like, I know he's cheating on me, but what can I do? My kids need to eat. Yes, I don't have a choice. I don't have a choice. So I like that a lot more younger women, African women, black women are realizing there's a choice. And you know, in picking your partner, in living with your partner and staying with your partner, all of that. Anyway, so after Houston, back in New York now, and after stopping like feeling like myself, I think it's because I've been moving so much, which is crazy because I think, I don't know if it was you those asking me how no mad life has been for me, and if I'm enjoying it or not. And I think I sang to my manager too, and she was asking me, I'm talking a lot, aren't I? Keep going. Oh. To a podcast. Right? Guys, I'm telling you, I don't know how to not apologize for myself. I mean, but like it's, it's crazy how you've actually, like you don't have a home right now. I don't. Yeah. It's right to like how's that been? Because you've been traveling. Yeah, because my manager was telling me, yeah, I was telling her when I landed in New York, I was like, oh, I don't still feel good. I feel some type of one. She's like, oh, maybe it's because you don't have a place. And I'm like, no, because this feeling is familiar. Right. Because even when I had an apartment, I still felt like this. So he has nothing to do with me moving. I do think I'm blaming on something else. I think, I think I'm still seeking some level of structure with how I'm moving that I haven't found yet. So maybe that's what it is. Yeah. And I'm just trying to figure out what structure, or what that looks like. But besides that, no, I've enjoyed it. Like I love it very much. I think next year is going to be like a fresh, fresh start for me. Because now I feel like I've done all the cities that I want to potentially see if I want to live in. I realize I don't want to leave New York. So now I'm like, okay, I'm actually going to travel now. So next year is the kind of thing where I'll bring you up and be like, do you want to just book a flight? And let's figure out where it lines in the world. And then we should go do it. Yeah. It's kind of traveling, excuse me, experiences that I want to have next year. So we'll see how those go. But yeah, back in New York. And of course, I had to film this episode with Donald. I think the episodes we had with the last guests have been just so fun. Like to see having Jury on the podcast just seeing Moe shut out to them. I think next year, I'm excited for the kind of guests we're going to have on to film. Honestly, I would say. What was your favorite on the road's podcast? So far, my mom's no. And we just saw like the Spotify rap thing just came out. Yeah, you think any interesting? No, but no, no, no, that was the most recent. Yeah, my mom's episode was the most recent, yeah. But no, no, no, that was the one with any interesting. What's it? That was the most recent. I don't know though. Right, but the one with your mom had like the most engagement, like likes and comments. If I keep moving, yeah, they definitely resonated with episode. Everywhere I go, people talk about the episode a lot. Really? It's so crazy. But yeah, what you gonna call it? I am here now, we're in New York, and I am with finally introducing the person sitting beside me. Don't put this in self. I just want you guys to know that. If whenever we have guests, I do the, like, little recaps of who the guests are. Don't know, I didn't even think to introduce them because I just assumed you guys knew who you was and we were just going to dive into the episode. But this man, because he's going to edit it, I know for a fact, he saw me introducing other people and wanted me to introduce him to. So to give you what you want, today's guest is someone you already know, my creative partner, my loud bestie, and the man who somehow survives producing this show every week. He's a filmmaker, creative director, and the Nigerian King of Dramatic Storytelling for no reason. Donald Aduvia is in the building for our holiday special, never, ever, ever episode of Amai Too Loud, the podcast. Donalds, welcome to Amai Too Loud, the podcast. Thank you very much. Yes. There's no act like, come on. Like, like, all of them. That's no. No more. Like, isn't it crazy that this is what episode, what, 48, the 47, 46, 48, 48, I was right. This is episode 48. Always was going to be perfect. The episode that I wanted to do will be 50. Yeah. Oh my God. And we've been doing this. Oh my God, yeah, that's true. Yeah, that's perfect. First one. Yeah, that's perfect. And we've been doing this for a whole year. And I think it's just, how do you feel though? Because, like, yeah, the intro is all nice and dandy, right? Because, like, you guys need to know why I am. First of all, but, I'm just saying. I'm just talking like that. Well, that's my, oh, but you know what I'm saying? This is like, this is like, Donald the producer. But I want my friend right now, I'm trying to give you the different versions of the voice. This is Donald the producer, you know, like soft voice. The guy who could be a bestie. But you also need to understand, like, I do have deep sides in me. You know, I'm a filmmaker, I'm, I'm a duvier, you know? Ooh, and I'm going to say it's here first. We're actually rebranding, rebranding my agency from a random creative to a duvier, which is really interesting because I recently found out the meaning of a duvier. What does a duvier mean? It means a good thing, a good future. And I like a random creative. No, it's a duvier by a random creative. But the reason why I dovier is like, I feel like somewhere along the line, since I moved to America, I lost the element of culture, like the care of culture, right? OK, OK, right now, the goal is to build a culture driven studio and really just try to me reconnect back into the culture and make sure that every project that I'm working on is feeding back into the culture in some way. A duvier. A duvier. I do, no, I like it though. No, no, no, because I feel you. We can go on to many rounds, but when he comes to, when he comes to the element of culture, and actually everything has been going on around, which I'm about to pivot into because it's like, you got canceled from, yes, right? Oh, my God, you know? And I think that's what inspired it. I'm just like, I need to personally, because I'm like, what can I do? I'm here in America, right? I feel helpless. You did feel helpless, I know I didn't even help you, but you're, yeah, I was like, I was listening to that. I was like, what can I do? I was calling my friends, trying to figure stuff out. Okay, so let's talk about that, okay? So guys, finally addressing the elephants that was in the room, about two, three weeks ago, I before anything had happened, I really wanted to do an episode of Religion. And I think I did that because... No, no, no, no, no, you're not telling the story, right? It doesn't start from there. Sorry, from two months ago, a month ago. You started from the Nigerian, when did the Nigerian episode go? I started from the Nigerian episode. Okay, let's go back to square one. So I did the Nigerian episode where I said the Nigerian are a real place, and then a response video about that, and so there was a little conversation. And a lot of the reasons why I started feeling like religion was a huge factor in how people thought, especially Nigeria, with regard to the American president also saying they wanted to come do some invasion of Nigeria because of the Christian genocide, and all that stuff that was happening. So I tweeted, organized religion, is one of the downfalls of the African society or something like along those lines. And I was like, you know what, we should do a podcast episode where I talk about organized religion. Very separate from any response to what was going on within Nigeria. So this was more of like a, okay, I feel like one of the biggest people who listen to me are Nigerians, but also there's a lot of Americans, the UK, Canada, we're global, 83 countries, guys. What if I were up? And I wanted to sort of like talk about religion from a sample of how I see it. So I am Muslim, I'm from a Muslim background. I'm not practicing Muslim, but for the most part, I was a practicing Muslim. And then I also see how Christianity, Islam, Judaism, all the, there's almost all religions at this point. Sort of become, whether that's like an umbrella for a lot of damages caused in the world, just a tool. And so I wanted to talk about organized religion and how we need to start thinking about faith differently. So I filmed this episode. I mean, like filmed this episode rushed to film it and it had a post date of a Wednesday randomly, right? That was what was happening. Because everything is planned, right? They planned all that with some day, let's close up. Then the day before the episode was supposed to go live, there was an attack on about three to four different places in Nigeria talking about an attack on a church. There was a lot of shame. Yeah, that was life-streamed. Children were kidnapped in schools in Kebi State and so on and so forth. And so we still had plans to post the episode because to me, I wanted to make sure we also posted like a disclaimer at the beginning. This is not in any way talking about the loss of the lives or the nonsense happening, which we put in the full episode. But also like, this is why we did, what this is why we're posting about this too. Because these are things where a lot of things are going to be weaponized around the conversations with insecurity in Nigeria. So I posted that and then we posted a teaser. Now here is where the issue came when I take full responsibility for it. When in the full video and when we're filming it, in the video itself, I'm talking about how, when we think about propaganda, right? And we think about things that have happened with foreign invasion into different countries. We see stuff that sometimes aren't credible or we see stuff that are maybe exaggerated to fit an agenda. We see the currently in the media in America. We see it in the media in Nigeria. We see it in the media everywhere. We see it with AI and I'm not knowing where there's a real influence that was going on. I didn't use it for performances. I didn't use it for performances. So I remember I wanted to clip some saying that right now there's allegations of like 50,000 bodies in certain places as people get murdered. But my biggest issue with Nigeria and countries like in third world countries is there is no correct reporting. Like there is no agency that is sort of like credible enough to say this is exactly what's going on, especially with the North and the West it is. So my take when I was talking about that is like we're seeing all these things, where are they? Like why don't we have this footage? Why don't we have this news? Why don't we see these things? Because when we talk about the issue with Palestine right now folks can see it like we see and which is even more disappointing to say is we see it and we still see no one's helping. And it was, you know what I mean? Like just, it's another side of it. But so I'm like we see these things like we're happening right now, we see the bombings. So for me I'm like I want us to be able to push whether that's like government agencies to show us reports and all these things are going on. So then we can make proper decisions and stuff. So I posted this teaser and immediately we're starting to get like a lot of flak people are like what do you mean? People just lost their lives or how are you so disrespectful? And I'm like this is not me trying to be disrespectful. This is me trying to be logical in a time where a lot of people are being led by emotions. Which I now was like you know what? I can see that perspective. So instead of trying to be like I'm going to double down. I did a lot of the video and I reposted it where it wasn't so like what is it in their face? It wasn't so loud and abrasive and more. Okay I'm understanding why this might not sit well but I hope people watch that video. We just got a lot of feedback and a lot of pushback on people just being very upset, being so rude and disgusting. And I remember my team sending me messages and my social media team was like to feel okay. Do you want to take this down? Donald is like upset for me. He's like wants to go off in the comments and I'm just like and I was always in the comments like explaining myself to people. And I just realized that people were going into always be so dedicated to misunderstanding you. And also there is for social media right now there is no nuance. There is no oh this can also be true and this can also be true. And when people don't agree with your stance, it's becoming more of like an attack on your character rather than just a disagreement of opinions. So like if I say I don't want US invasion in Nigeria and someone is responding to me saying how dare you say that you're saying saying that from a place of privilege, no. Right. It's an opinion. I don't want US invasion. It's also like how dare you. No, no, no, I can think about it. It's like how dare you say someone that's coming from a place of privilege? What do you mean? Like and that's I see, I don't want to get into it too much because I think it showed me something, right? Because from a producer standpoint, I'm like that was one of our posting that video because I'm the one hitting published, right? I'm like excited, right? Because I remember all the discrimers. I'm like I'm excited about this episode to go out. But then it becomes our lowest listen video, lowest viewed video, but the outrage on social media isn't saying and I understand people are saying, oh, it's what was put in the teaser. It's a flipping teaser, right? What's the episode? Like when has and I think this is because yes, religion is one aspect of what I think African suffer but the second aspect is education. The idea of not wanting to hop into discourse, like you're not having, even when you go into the teaser and look at the comments, right? It's a lot of people like saying, oh, this person is a dog, this person is this. And to be honest, I'm actually like, I'm just going to die because why would she be like, oh, the way I'm disgusted by like young Nigerians, right? I'm disgusted by like just the thoughts and like the type of like verbiage that is being used by people, it's like there's no way Nigeria is going to grow if you are not ready, like even living here in America, this place that you're like, oh, this is privilege. Like you have to listen to your posts inside. Like you have to listen to understand like here, everyone's full. And be like, oh, I'm not gonna, because if you're afraid to listen, then it means that you don't even believe what you believe, because why are you afraid? What's, what, is it going to change your mind? Are you scared? They're like, oh, like if you meet somebody who thinks a different way, now it's like, oh, now you're, oh, you think you're going to like the same gender? Like, you know what I mean? This is like different. I love sis. It's, no, it's, think about it, right? It's like, it's so disappointing, especially the comments. And this cuts across to like different, even with where we're going to go into now, because I feel like we're going to go into the, the interception, right? Like my thoughts on like, okay, on one end, you see people are like, let's spread the love, let's everyone speaks to love. And I'm so big on like, okay, love, love, love, great. But when the going gets tough and it's time, like the, the, the, it's then, the reality is different. Yeah. Like the reality is like, you poor, and when I say majority, right? It's like, I'm not talking to the people who are living nice comments, who will never leave a hit comment. I'm not talking to those people. A lot of the people like, like you go to insult rather than, like actually like having educated like discourse. Like this, it was very disappointing. I feel like, I feel like also like it's, it feeds into, cause here's the thing. I will say this, as long as we, what we need to bring back the group chat. Like we need to bring back the group chat. And also we need to bring back. I don't know how to say this properly. We need to bring back. I don't know if it's shame or something. I think it's shame. Maybe it's shame because you know what? I remember I did this in an episode before I was like, you know what, I know what does this thing in this podcast? Whereas like if I ruled the world, if I ruled the world, I would have people, actually, if you want to post a comment, right? You have to record a video. I mean, that video there's your house address, your name, your social security number and everything. And for every comment you leave, it shows up as like a message with all your details. Right. So that person, you know, we know you're the one. So we know you're the one, we know what you're saying. Because I swear to you, the amount of audacity people have online to be so hateful and so negative. And I see this also with TikTok, TikTok with quote on Twitter and I don't know, I'm still on that platform. And even on Instagram too, where if you have a head of a mob who is uneducated and the head of the mob tells the mob, this is exactly what it is, the mob now follows. And it might have, how does that person become a head of a mob? How does that person have the skill set? Well, that's where negative comments come from. The more salacious you are, the more arrogant, the more loud you are. It's attention. It's attention. Yeah, you won't be attention. I underestimate, like sometimes I get nervous because I'm like, oh, guys, like, that might too loud. I want this podcast to be, well, let me say this instead. If you are watching my podcast, and I hope you cut this clip out, wherever I was clipping clips, thank you very much. If you're watching my podcast, no, no, I want this because you can't keep all of this in. If you're watching my podcast, you're keeping your thoughts, your opinions, your beliefs, your life lessons, your everything that is, you're keeping it at the door, and you're coming into the conversation with an open mind. I'm not asking you at any points to agree with me, to kiss my ass, to support me blindly, absolutely fucking not. I might too loud as like, oh, I'm going to say some crazy shit. I'm going to say some normal shit. I'm going to say some terrifying stuff. If you don't agree, respectfully disagree with me. If you agree, respectfully agree with me, and then let's keep it moving. And I think that's where I feel like social media has lost all of its fun. Like if I go online now and I see someone in their dream house, celebrating their dream, whatever. And my response to that is like, people are suffering in the world. How dare you pose this? Uh-huh. Yeah. Why? Yeah. Or if I'm listening to a podcast and I don't agree with what they're saying, what, how fun would it be if I could go in the comments and I write my own thoughts and why would I disagree? And they respond back and now we're arguing back and forth. But we're not insulting each other, instead we're just arguing. Like, oh, I don't agree with this issue because I did it, and then they bring their own points. And it's not emotional. You're not insulting me because I'm not. You're a positive religion. You're not insulting me because I've missed the old politics before, I think before, or I missed the old politics after Obama. Yeah. Because you know, before Obama. Because I feel like, oh, no. Before Obama. No, before Trump. Before Trump. Yeah, because I feel like politics then was, even though we disagree fundamentally on these issues, I still respect you. Like I respect your thoughts. Like I might not like it, why I respect it. And I think the idea of people who were from different sides of the aisle was always just this idea of, yeah, am I not agree with each other? But I mean, we don't respect for we don't like each other. Like now the rhetoric of the world is so full of hate. And I see that with normal people on social media trying to get their last viral view. And successful people aren't negative, guys. Like successful people are not negative. They're not mean. And I know as I say that now, I'm thinking of the top five to say people right now who are probably really mean. But they also, I mean, I don't consider those people successful. Also, they're such filled with such dark energy. You know what I mean? And I hope you understand that when people talk, it should always start from a place of care. I don't know. And I mean, it's like so kumbaya. Like kindness, it's not the kindness is really, it's really important, right? Because and it's not like what you said, right? Like coming into the conversation and keeping your thoughts at the door, but like understanding that like they're dead. They're not going away. Yeah, and you go pick them up. But I would say that with the teaser that we posted, one of the things I've been thinking about is like, I do hear the part of because of because of how hard the truth is to take. When you package the truth in such a short burst like that, a lot of the people who like we also want to, what's the point of pissing the person off at the door if you want to engage in discourse with them? Now, I think one of the things that I want us to kind of like figure out is to go back and like just like have that extra layer of consideration when we're pushing out teaser to watch it. Cause like we watched that and like we had no issue with it, right? But also thinking about like, okay, how does this? No, no, it doesn't hurt someone in a way because if someone tells me that like, if someone believes something and someone makes one statement that like goes against that, it hits me. But whatever we like it or not, this is like almost like a big part of the world. But also worse can always be spun. So there's sometimes we don't have control over that. Because if I say what I said and I explain why I said it, which is funny because let's give an example. So one of my previous relationships, the biggest things we always struggled with was misunderstanding each other's words. So you might say a word, but I might have a whole different meaning for what that word meant to what I meant by that. And you might take it a different way. Of course. So for example, if in this personal conversation, the overall arching fight with me was that I was disrespecting the people, the people who've lost their lives by saying 50,000 bodies were, right? And for me, when I hear that, I'm like, oh, I'm not saying that. I mean that I wasn't like where let's get reporting done. Let's get things going. Let's push. Let's do all these things. Are we sure it's going more or less? Are we sure we're getting killed? Where are they getting killed? What are the numbers? If they're 33 girls and can be their kidnapped, how old are those young girls? Where are their parents? So how many? We don't have data. We don't have a census of data for the bodies that are getting lost, especially in the North. We don't have a terrible job as a country to actually even keep tabs of that. In America, five kids should get missing. Immediately, they're telling you exactly what those children are. I don't know if it's a trucking ship they have. You know what I mean? There is that level of reporting that's done because of the care that the government at least has put into that, right? Versus, I say that and people hear that as like, what do you mean? Are you questioning the loss of lives? How dare you disrespect? Right. No matter what. There's always going to be. The conversation is still there are 50,000 bodies that were found or that have been killed. If 50,000 people have been killed, no matter the amount, I saw this on TikTok the other day. I know this is like a mid, mid grasp, right? On TikTok, what this girl said, that sometimes not everything has to be said. Like because I said 50,000 bodies where it doesn't mean I'm not remorseful, I don't care, it doesn't mean I'm attacking or not thinking about. It's going to stop. That's it. God, thank you English. Like there's, you know, I don't need to say, oh my God guys, for example, oh my God guys, I need to, I need to eat this. I don't need to say I'm hungry, I need to eat. I can simply say I need to eat, right? I don't need to always fully, like it should be known that when I'm making a logical argument or a conversation is being, is being had, that there's certain things that we don't need to also rehash. Because it's important to see that. It's for you to go for the full context. So for me, I think that's where I was coming from with a lot of times, the social media people see stuff and they're like, it's the same way like you might be watching something on TikTok. And then the guy might be like, oh, you know, like I just ate five burgers today. And someone's like, well, I've known it's not told to do. Yeah. I think it's like what's it called miss, miss place, like outrage and anger and like this idea, you know, that, you know, because you see a few comments, people saying, oh, like you're just doing this because you want like views and clicks and money and all these things. And he might head up just like, I'm like, I don't want to say lack of education, but it's like bro, bro, like critical thinking, like actually think and like your anger is not towards a podcast or towards like that outrage is towards your leaders, like it's towards the government, you know, it's like, and it's like, this is the medium to be able to do that. And now you're on your phone, holding your phone, and you're not actually like joining the discourse, like you're, you know, I don't know. I think like there's some thoughts to buy do love, like the part fan, like for the people who like actually watch the episode. And like, oh, so before they drag everybody, so sweet. I think that's why I love my community online too, because at the core, when you guys were work, because my team was really worried about them, they're like, so if you're getting canceled, are you okay, like this person is posting about you, talking about you, I was like, I was okay. And I was like, they're kind of where like, why are you okay? And I said, because I understand that some people would, our dedicated is just wanting to fight me or wanting to be with me. And the whole point of a podcast like mine is, I will say stuff that would make you question, whether or not I'm too loud. If you think I'm too loud, okay. If you think I'm not loud enough, okay. If you think I need to be quiet, okay. You can think that I'm not gonna change, because I'm still going to always ask you am I too loud. Like if tomorrow I create, I do an episode and it's like very cringe, it's so uncomfortable, you hate listening to it. That's okay, because maybe that was a, an episode that was too loud for you. That's the whole point. It's still there. It's still there, because you always go back. You might be uncomfortable in no one to engage in conversation or you might want to. I think that's the fun part of conversations. Like I would never back down from a challenge. Like if you want to sit in a room with me and argue and like go back and forth, as long as we're respectful, I'll go crazy. But I always draw the line of people who are just disrespectful. That's why I never were engaged. Like once I realized that, oh, you're actually dedicated to not listening to me. I'll let go and I shut down so quick. Like I just come from inside, I'm like, okay, I'm done. Like and that happens in all my relationships. Like I am not about to do with this. But I'm trying to explain, I'm just so hell bent and making sure your voice was being heard and not understanding or trying to change. Because like if I argue about something you refuse to listen to me, well, my argument is you. I learned about those. Like every time I would go into the comments and I would see your response, I'd be like, oh, that's okay. Yeah, and I, well so funny to be was like, when I would respond, people would be like, shut up, we don't care. Right. Yeah. What do you mean? I wish people, I think one thing to just take from this section is just that like, I wish people would just like move with more love. Like, yeah. Kumbaya guys, well, fuck it. It's like, people don't give a fuck, okay? And I'm sorry, I'm crazy. Who goes into a crazy turn? Because they need deception. Yeah. I, okay, for context, I saw it when it was like, maybe a thousand likes. And I, after like two, three minutes, I just skipped. I told you something. Well, I was there. Like, it's like, it's like, my FYP was like, I want to do it. It's like Donald, this is for you. Like, she posted it and I'm like, oh, who is this? Yeah, like 10 likes. I'm telling you, I was right there. And I never, I'm never the person who like, first of all, I'm ready to talk. Second, I'm not someone who like, sit down and like, listen to me. I'm not someone who sit down and listen to like a part one, but then she started talking. What is, what is your understanding of what went on with her? So for context, guys, Danish deception is a TikTok story. This is like three, four weeks old now at this point. So if you guys already know it, I'm so sorry. We can skip to this part on the little screen thing, but there's no way, well, you should have heard about it. So on Yika is a Nigerian American girl who was dating this Danish guy. And they were in relationships, they were in a relationship. They even ended up getting married. At some point, apparently she took his passport because she didn't want him to go. He stole about 300,000, he stole about $300,000 from her, from all the trips he went to. He lied that he was royalty. He was a king. He borrowed $200,000 from one of her friends, crypto guy. Yeah. And then almost like $100,000 from her, borrowed $3,000 from her younger sister. And she didn't find all this out like, okay, we're gonna stick down. I'm gonna go back to the beginning. Because. That is insane. She met him in, I think Croatia. Okay. Am I, the location might be wrong. Well, let's just say Croatia. She met him in Croatia. And then she went back to the US, they were DMing and stuff, didn't like exchange numbers, right? He flew out to Monaco when he had a conference. I thought they knew all this stuff. Put her in a $2,000, put us like a big hotel room. She met all his coworkers, all of that. So this man has a job and apparently he earns like $400,000. So he's not a bum. So it took time like six more. Cause this happened over three years. Well, she said he has a gambling addiction. So that's probably where he started the money came from. Okay, I remember that part. So. She got scammed. And she's telling you about it. She didn't break up with him. Yes. But I want to talk about what this situation is. The backlash that she received. And as a guy, right? When I'm scrolling on social media, I think because I'm fortunate enough to work with a lot of like, especially like black women. Yeah. I like, I've, I've, there's certain things I've learned about like, okay, how you guys love to try, how you guys want to be treated, how you love to treat other people, right? The conversation around that. Yeah. What I expected after hearing her story was that people were going to be like, oh my god, this is crazy. But the amount of backlash that she received, now understand people are like, oh, she likes white men. She is white washed like all these things. Like I, I hear all those things. But I'm like, okay, where, where is the, because now we're publicly shaming, right? Where's the end? Because we're publicly shaming a black woman, which from the back of my mind, I thought that's not what we're supposed to do. And I understand. But like, what happened to like, like you said in the group, I want to school to be by the back. Like, do you mean like publicly, publicly like we're like, like who cares? Like, is he her fault that maybe she grew up and she went to a white school and all those things and like, she's been preconditioned in certain ways. She's a truck that's like, wait, you know something that's like, yeah. So that's why I want to understand from your perspective, right? So here's the thing. When I, I didn't finish her thing, but when I watched her happy, when I say I've seen all the things come in, when I first saw the first episode, someone saying it could never be me. And we can't compare it to my good sister, Risa Tisa. Here's the thing. People don't like strong women. And what I mean by that is, I'm also saying she's a strong woman here. I want to give you an example. So don't run away yet. People don't like strong women. Meaning if you're a woman who tells it as it is insane, this is exactly what happened. If there's no a level of like, maybe there's a paradise or a crying of telling like, if you're not, what is there when you beat yourself down for the people's comfort? Submission? No, it's like people don't like, we want people to beat you, right? People don't want you to seem like you have your shit together, because then people get upset. I guess like the Jackie Aina effect. Like how dare she say she shouldn't call her auntie, right? Well, she can. But how dare she say it? So we're going to try to put her in her place, but you can't put a woman in her place like that. Like it's not possible. That I think is what they were trying to do to her, right? Valid that, you know, she did why men they wish was talking about, you know, the guy was very much, she thought of him as a prize. She grew up with all the friends. No, I definitely didn't. That's crazy. You're up with all white friends, all that stuff, valid, right? You can say all that about her. It still does not negate the fact that this woman got scammed. And for me, people are like, oh, we can't compare researchers. It's because researchers are people are like, oh, Risa. Like she felt, she kept saying I was so stupid. I didn't know what I mean. Like Risa had a level of, I was ashamed. I'm going to tell you guys what I went through, but like, I know it was my fault. And I tried to do better. Oh yeah, I think came off from me. Let me tell you what this man did, how dare he, he's not going to do this again. And she had like a, I'm a strong woman. I'm going to show that I can do it, I can do it. You know what I mean? Like she was very strong about it. So that also probably people be like, girl, what are you talking about? Like, you can't be that strong when you're trying to pass the message. It's actually online where people are already ready to bite your head off. And then the main issue, which is her liking white men and black women saying, like, if they're, she's Nigerian, how would you say that Nigerian? Why her braids behind her ear? Yeah, that's the whole thing. Like, you know, there's some things about like, why do all these things matter? It's just society. It's just society. Honestly, I'm telling you, it's just society. I would say that that got me confused. Because when I watched the entire thing, I was like, oh, wow, like this sucks for this girl. And then you see the response. Sometimes on the internet, like when I have a finger to or something, I see how people like react. Who is like, is my brain screwed? No, it's not like, did I miss something? Because it's like, she got scammed by somebody who is an addict. Why does it matter if she likes somebody with blue eyes? Am I too loud if Onyaka actually did not deserve to be scammed? And, you know, the women, see, the people online, the women who compare, they're like, oh, my husband will not try that. I'm like, I'm like, he would have even known it's him. I'm telling you, like, I can make a collage of all the videos I saw, like all the other creators, who like, they're like, oh, my husband never do it. See me, my husband, my mind. I'm like, shut up. It's not like, like, man, never in 2026. Like, what are we talking about? Man, like, I've been with men too. Fucking hell. It's like, it's like, this lady came out and she's like, oh, and when you understand why she said it, because, like, this is some Gambini's super rampant right now, especially amongst men. Right. It's like, it's a big issue. And she feels it needs to come out and highlight it for something that happened. And like, it's also like, nobody talks about like, how, how much of a little person is she that she was willing to, like, stay with him. She didn't break up with him, right? And people are like, looking at all those things, like, no. No, it's funny. I think when she was talking about, because I feel like, hmm, that won't hit me a lot. Which one? When I watched that part when she was talking about how, like, oh, she found out that he had lied about some other money. And then she tried to be like, was wrong with him. Like, he's caught now. And then he was like, why you be even like this? And he's like, I'm going to leave. And she felt like, oh, OK, I might have pushed him away. Let me help him, because you're an addict. This is not your fault. Because when you love someone, and you perceive their actions to be based off of trauma or pain, when you love someone, your first instinct isn't to condemn them or push them away. For someone who has love, you're wanting to show them care. And I think for her, when people are like, oh, imagine the man saying she would leave. I'd be, he would leave. And she's saying, yeah, I'm so sorry. Let's figure it out. Like, that's the one who just got married to this man. They are married. That's your husband. If your husband is taking 200, 300, if a man has been lying, but you've been told now that he's lying because of a gambling addiction, you're probably fucked at 1,000 times. What? Think about it. You said they probably fucked for it. Yeah. Don't know why he's like, what am I saying what are you saying? Because you're talking about love. He's not just love. Don't think about it. They probably fucked for it. Like, 8,000 times. You see me saying, what? They're me to get a married gay. That's a fucking clip. You better clip that. Yeah. Well, I'm talking so much like they're like, they probably probably fucked for it. No, it's true. Because I was thinking about it. I'm like, what would make her like someone that's you should be fucked at count. No. You should be like, what the fuck are you going to do? Shut up. Guys, not the fucking fucking. The part I'm trying to see what's going on. Let me get to be learned to my story, Frank. Okay. Basically, you love this person, right? Top, when you hear that, top three things, four things, five things will not be, I want to condemn this one, get out of my house. For the one you've been fucking, I'm saying you love her. And they tell them, oh, they find out that they have a gambling addiction. You're not going to say get out of my house. You're going to say, maybe let me help you. Just trust me here. You're going to be patient. You're going to be kind. That's what 99.9% of everyone that's making that video with you is easy. We'll say that. It's easy to say, oh, if it was me. I would have done that. But you don't have the relationship with us. I have not fucked a thousand times. I'm not. I'm just so mean. Okay. No, no, I might too loud to say that when you could actually like, bro, like think about it, she was like, she went to different countries. They probably had sex in different countries. He proposed to her and God knows where they went to Morocco. See, that's what people should love. That's what people should love. That in three years, what that girl experienced, people have written movies. About it. Over one class, you're not saying she would not say she just wants it. You love them on the road. They've been traveling to different places, doing big kishon. I remember my first boyfriend actually. I'm actually in America. He was trying to do it for a thousand times. For cold. So you could out to the next. Continue to. My first boyfriend, I remember he couldn't afford a birthday trip. He planned. I'm not sure if he planned for me. Oh, God, I'm so far down by a birthday shot. For me, or whether it was something he planned for myself, all I remember is he couldn't afford it. And I remember it. At that point, we're against the point in our relationship where we're not doing really well. And because Sophie misses everybody can be. Everybody needs me. I need them. I need them to need me. He named me to borrow him some money. And I remember I don't even have money. I thought it was a big time at my uncle at the time. I actually don't care what we're talking about really in the episode, to give me money to give him. And the entire night, none of my friends knew that he didn't have the money. And it was me that was paying for the thing that he was doing. But he was a short, but he's always going to talk about it. But as a partner, I thought it was my duty, my job, to stand by my person. Oh, if she's being crazy, if she's not communicating, she's not doing this thing, it's my responsibility as a partner to show up for this person until they get to the point where they're feeling comfortable. And then so when I finally left our relationship, I was like, oh, no, actually, because you can also see when people don't want to help each other. Like when the guy said, oh, once he had said, I'm going to leave, I don't want to do this anymore. I will say I hated that people were dragging her for it. Because yeah, I get it. She likes white men. She's talking from a superior compass. She doesn't have black women and black friends. But I think people forget that kids don't choose to be mixed. They don't choose to grow up with only white friends. They don't choose to grow up with only black friends. Even as adults, I think we underestimate socialization and intermingling. I don't understand society right now. Because I hear what we're talking about. Oh, how are you, a 20-something-year-old woman who's from a black world? You say, yeah, you had only white high school but how do you share your friends now? Where do you get those people? If she's like, if you grew up in a certain tax bracket in Dallas and you own a home, like... No, I mean, I'm thinking about it from a perspective of, even me now, right? I consider myself what? Give or take a normal girl who moves to a new city. Finding friends in that new city is hard enough. Now, imagine me coming from the background of I'm an immigrant who's very new to this country. Finding friends is already hard enough. There's so many layers to how people integrate into society. So what I'm getting at is I hate when we see young... I have a friend, for example, Shara Salusi, love her so much, who was adopted from Cameron, right? And she's in America right now. Her entire life was in Utah. If you don't know America, Utah is deep, white, amish, woman culture. And she was adopted. And this is a young black girl who's only ever known Mormonism and why people are apparent to why everything... She's that's all she's known. So even if she decides, you know what? I really want to find my people. Who are people? Where would she find the people? Where is she supposed to go? What is she supposed to go? I also don't think like those pictures like tell the full story, right? Because even if she was on the Bachelor. Even if they do, I remember they talked about her being on the Bachelor and like, oh, when she was even there, that she was only hanging. Yeah, guys, but like this is what socialization does to young people. And as a society, we need a lot more empathy for folks who are trying to enter this place. I know how hard it is for me to... How hard it was for me to go into black parties when I first came to America. Because all I was used to was Afrobeats. Yeah. That's all I knew. So for me, when they were playing R&B music, when they were playing hip-hop and stuff, a lot of foolish and generous to love my people. A lot of us be too included. I'm foolish too. When we're in the clubs right now in America and they're playing American music, where the ones who were always like, just dancing and chilling, when we hit Afrobeats, we're like, hey, we're jumping. Because that's socialization, that's familiarization. We have to go out of our way to open up to the culture or to learn, which is even harder if you don't have the right people. When I first came to America in West Virginia, the people who were there did not like me. And I thought, oh my God, people are gonna hate me in this country. Why would you not like me? Black girls didn't like me. Asian girls didn't like me. It was only international students that actually fucked with us. And then once in Louisiana, and my roommate was white and my other roommate was a black girl, and they would invite me to go eat their grandma's catfish and they're doing all these things. And I was like, okay, that's not my different experience. So socialization is so important. And we tend to just bully these young people because they're like, oh, there's an internet announcement. She should go out and Google, Google what? Where would she start from? And even now, we hear her response back. I mean, people were still just like, well, you deserve the girl. Why? Because she likes white men? I don't know. I'm just saying, I think there's a lot of empathy that's missing, and there's a lot of conversations around how people judge other people for living lives that are different than what they expect the norm to be. And I think people struggle a lot with just even trying to live their lives. So I feel sad for her. And I hope I heard that he's still scamming people. And I think he's in Cabo now or Tulum, Mexico. I heard he's scamming people in a wrong club. Of course, it's a fucking wrong club. Of course, it's a freaking wrong club. I've heard he's scamming in Tulum, which is, you know, which is crazy. So at least, I mean, we know that he has a type. And he's going for people in different digital normas, digital people who were on the move. So yeah, guys, that was a dangerous deception. And then I think you summarize that beautifully. Any questions, concerns? I've been belching all day. I have nothing else to say about that. Okay, guys, that's a December. As started already, folks are probably right now either on their flights to Ghana, Nigeria, Cape Town, Sierra Leone, Cameroon, your villages, your countries. If you're in America, you're probably, I've also get ready for going for Christmas break. You already on Christmas break. You're a family. You're having fun as the holiday season. Happy holidays. I hope you're good. I, at the moment, you're watching this. I am probably going to be in Nigeria. And well, check out my snapshots to figure out where I'm actually. I'm not sure. Bobby and I and Jerry are going to be here in America. Sorry, in this cold. I think that's a December is overrated and processed. It is facts. However, I will still be shaking my hands out in Nigeria. When I go in there, I'm not spending in the local currency. For the most part, we're thinking about where to go where, how are you, like, yeah, I'm definitely contributing to society, which is not fair. But as I was saying, this December is happening. Prices for flights to Sierra were crazy. I really think folks are going to price themselves out of this December, especially in Nigeria. Because when I think about the prices of things going on right now, it's absurd to me. It's going to get to a point where it's just two people that just get it. I was crazy. It's like, I don't know, man. I don't understand it. Like paying $3,000, $4,000 for flights. It's crazy. It's interesting to watch it right. For an economy flight. But I used to go to the December. It used to be like $6,500, $1,700. Yeah. And that was a lot for us. And that was when, that was even us late commerce. But when it's in October, so now that I'm thinking about $4,000 for an economy ticket, $12,000 for what premium select on Delta. My question to the people in the diaspora, who are going to Vegas, right? They have regular jobs. Is it worth it? My friend would say no. I think we should save all the money throughout the year, with how hard it is here, with like inflation and everything, going there and just like blowing it. Because like, So you know what's funny? I mean, think about it. It's like, I don't think, the people who participate in Delta, December, I don't think are people here who do nine to fives. That's true. I generally disagree, I generally agree. I'm telling you why. Because I think when I look at it now, or if they are, the people who have saved up enough for them to want to blow during the month. I disagree. What do you think? I think there are people who are using credit cards and suffering throughout the rest of the year. Majority of them. No. Because I'm telling you when you go back home and you see the people in these parties. These are the same people that like are charging, doing charged backs when they move back. For sure. But I'm telling you, that's not the majority. That's the minority. And people will be a bigger problem. I'm telling you, when you go into these clubs, I'm telling you, these are people who... I'm telling you if I want to sit on a podcast, I'll say you can figure out if I want to cut it or not. It's yellow boys. It's before I wash it. It's before I washing money. Let's do it to the next one. Okay, let me say it this way. It seems that people who are trying to just have money circulate, who are washing their money. Does that make sense? Like, because there's an absurd amount, and it's usually for like, I think people are talking about how there's a press utilization of, that's in December now, where like baddies are flying in from America, from the UK to enjoy Nigerian men. Because the idea is Nigerian men to spend. Because you're talking about like this spend. The spend, right? Because in these clubs, like, you're going to a club which is really big and I enjoy Zaza, right? You're going to Zaza and you're spending five, six, 10 million, 15 million NARA at the table with bottles. But there are still scams going on, like people stealing your bottles to give you the deal at the table who's not really buying a bottle. Or people, you know what I mean? Like, it really isn't normal people who are spending this money. It's people who, people are coming in to spend the money that they want. You know what I mean? Trying to say, yeah, we're not saying everything out fully. If you guys are getting this. Like they spend happening, but I think I'm talking about like the people who are here and they're flying because they have like their two-week vacation. So those people, like if you see those, they're like, they actually are intentionally like, okay, I've been saving up for the time to turn them. But even then now, the most of the majority of people who are talking are like, this is a lot. But most of those people too, if they have families, think about it, they're going to stay in their family home so they don't have pain for Airbnb. Right. It's not as, it's not as, it's not as, it's not like if I was to go to Nigeria now, like I have to, you know, it's not going to, yeah. It's not going to affect you in that way. If people like me who don't have family homes who are close enough to the enjoyments anyways, I'm going, I'm thinking of Airbnb. I'm thinking of drivers. So people have already have family drivers. So they see there's also a difference there because they're girls who, maybe their family is based in America with their visiting for the first time. So they're getting the Airbnb. That's where the money's coming from. Because why do I need the Airbnb if my family lives in Lagos, right? Most of the time it's, I mean, I don't want to stay deep in my jaw and know those places. Why else I have friends? Exactly. So I think that's, I think, yeah. But it's expensive. It's been crazy. I don't want to send happy for a surviving. I know a lot of my friends have been complaining about it. But I hope I'm having a good time feature, Sophie. Let me know in the comments how you did to the Zimbabwe's going. I think I really want to go to Ghana this year because I feel like Ghana to me has always been like a lot more controlled with Dead Sea Zimbabwe. I enjoy Ghana's safety, security, peace of mind. Service is really slow and Ghana is so freaking slow. But people who are there are still very kind. It's not a lot of hustle and it's not eight hour traffic. Lagos is a lot of traffic. I don't know if I want to deal with that. We know about the pricing out of like, because like back to the age here, and two Ghana too, right? Because the concerts, right? I saw that, right? I think we're not the target demographic. Again, I'm telling you the washing of the money. It's interesting, because I remember. Because the tables are sold out. For example, they're talking about like, how expensive it is now. It's pretty more expensive now to see and as Shaqel did we do perform in Nigeria than it is to see them to perform in America. And it's because people are pricing them out of the market. Nigeria is operating on the level as a America without the contingencies of what America provides or the safety or the peace of the, what was the wealth of life that America provides to you? And I think that's my big issue. Like, because of how big I for beast became, if I'm coming to America and a brand is paying me, quality of life there. If I'm coming to America and a brand is paying me, it's like $80,000. Why would I want to collect a minor of my needs amounts for the same thing I'll be performing in Nigeria? We don't understand, it's a lot of greed because they don't understand how, nothing about market economics. Meaning, yeah, American can pay that. Nigeria cannot, this is an example. So when I'm pricing brands, I price brands differently. So if a global American brand is reaching out to me, I will give them my rates versus a brand like a black one brand who is just opening up with a moment pop shop because I know what their power is. A lot of creators might not do that. A lot of people might not think like that. They might just be like, it doesn't matter. If you want to come to me, my rates don't shift. For me, I'm like, I wouldn't want to make you suffer because you're trying to pay me something when I know you can't even afford it. But if I believe in your content, believing in your work, I will still want to work with you. So I think for a lot of African artists, for a lot of folks who are going back into the diaspora, people are in thinking from that perspective and that's why the locals are being priced out. Because if you're thinking, oh, if I'm going to America and breathe at 400s, because there's not a lot of people who are braiding, in Nigeria there's a lot of people braiding. So why in God's name should braids be less expensive and more like right now, where is that? When nails are expensive to do, if it's in Nigeria, they're super expensive. And I was like, there's plenty of people I can do it. I could go to get my nails done. But because you increased your price, I would increase my price, I would increase my price for now. It's no one the same. Guys, we should have increased the price. It's pizza, this people don't want to say in that. This is great. I love what David did though, like the toy that he didn't enjoy. Like he went to eat by them all the places and I know for a fact that all those people in the crowd, I didn't see what the actual ticket prices were. You're cheap to it now. Because I remember like back in Nigeria, I remember J. Cole, J. Cole came to Nigeria and the concert tickets were $50,000. Like for like proper, that was VIP. It was like $25. And like the dollar rates and all those things were like different back then. But I just think like, it should be for after-beats artists. Like if you're coming back and you're like pricing out like the citizens, like you should be like doing stadiums. And I understand this is difficult, security and all those things. Cause I didn't really like, that's where, that's the heart, you know, if those people feel like they can't even like show up. You know, what else? Yeah. It's like what happened to Burnup World? Yeah, oh, I'm not even gonna get into it. Oh my God. Guys, okay. So I think one of the last things we're gonna talk about is Forbes 30 and the 30. Because Donald actually got a pitch email about applying for Forbes 30. No. No, not a pitch email. What is it? Like the nominated, sorry. That's what I meant. Don't know how nominated for Forbes 30 and a 30 applied and did everything. I'm gonna read you the email. Okay. Did you have it pulled up already? Not just when it's very easy. It's just how many Forbes emails have I gotten? You know, they're Donald. You've been identified as a potential candidate for the 2026 Forbes 30 and the 30 social media list. So see if you're a fit. We'd love to hear more about you and your work when you have a moment. Please feel out this questionnaire. If you have any questions, we're happy to help. August 30, that was deadlines. I have no distance, August. And I responded, you know, we went back and forth and you know, she asked me a bunch of questions about like my stuff. It felt good. It felt good. And I think that was the first time that I was like, whoa, like I never get excited about stuff that I sometimes actually want. But like, this is how I was like, I was like, it felt like I was getting recognized for like all the work that I do behind the scenes. Because I feel like a lot of the being a creator, a lot of the accolades, right? It's like, you're getting subscribers, views. And I do get to share that, especially with my clients. But like, with from internal, I was like, wow, like this thing that I've used is finally like getting some recognition. Because about this, I remember feeling the form, like there was so much information about like the business, like the goals and everything. And it was being in the back of my mind. It was funny because I think I sent it to you. And it came out two days ago. And I remember I was sitting down and getting a pedicure. I was showing you guys my tools, but you know that. I was getting a pedicure. And I usually just thought about it because I've been waiting, I've been refreshing the page to see. And I usually just, I thought about it, I was like, oh, this thing could have come out. I opened Instagram and they just posted it like two minutes. I know. You know, and I started looking and I looked through. I went to the main website, I'm like scrolling, scrolling, scrolling, scrolling. I didn't see my name. I went back, I scrolled, scrolled like that. But for a side moment, I felt sad about it. And then I didn't. But then I think I called you. And then we talked about it. And it was that moment that also hit me. I was like, we, this is, this is a goal of mine, right? But there's somebody else that I know who should also be on this list that isn't there. You. Oh, I was like, what if it gets to me? Yeah, cause like, cause I was thinking about it from my head, right? But I'm just like, you're also on the 30, right? And like, you're on the list. So how do you feel? Um, I didn't apply, um, or anything. So I feel like I actually, I didn't bring so much. I actually got reached out to with about times. Okay. Times creator thing earlier this year. And, um, I, you know, was crazy. Remember, my team didn't fill it out. And I missed that deadline. We're going to unpack that later. But, um, I, I don't know because I have it on my bucket list for next year and I'm going to work towards it. But I will say I sat down and I looked at everything I had done this past year. And I realized I think I lost the plot. Hmm. And I think that's why I didn't feel bad about not getting it cause I felt like I wasn't a good candidate this year. It's just crazy cause I feel like everybody was listening and probably like, no, selfie, you were great. I disagree. Yeah, I think for me, that's my level of, that's why I wasn't upset cause I know I could have done better. So maybe I'm pushing myself hard by, in my head, I'm like 226 is my fresh start to actually show myself what it looks like to want a goal and actually go for it. I think that's for me to, for you to all say like, there's a lot of dreams that we have and about things that we want to do that. We sometimes have these really big ideas, but then we execute and we, we gain to this perfection spiral or we weigh and we don't do. And I think that's for me, I was like, okay, I wonder what would have happened if I'd actually done all of these things that I've been wanting to do. So I still have to say, I'm sorry, you didn't get it, but it's inevitable that you get it next year. And if I didn't get it next year, cause I'm gonna be 30 next year, right? And I think I actually don't care if I get it because it made me realize that I actually want the bigger one. The bigger one. Just wall. Like I want the actual like bigger near status. She wants like work hard now to get that. Yeah, like that's the level of like work that I actually, but you just, it could make me ask myself, like why do I want this so bad? But I'm also well balanced with like, cause I understand like it's just a list, right? It's like I looked at the judges and I understood why those people that were there were selected. And at the end of the day is like, they could only select 600 people out of 10,000. And it's like, I know that's like every single person that was like nominated, right? Even people who are not nominated, right? Cause you actually know about it, like, you know, it was a whole like, it was a gift for me to even be nominated, right? Based off of like the people who like help put my name there, but I think like the fact that I could even be taught in that conversation, I didn't think about like the things I was building in that, cause I'm kind of like, or I'm building, I love the things I'm doing on the basis and just like going. So that just like, it made me feel good. And yeah, to be in this country, right? In the small room that we are, but like for you though. Yeah. Yeah, well, yeah. You know what's crazy? Where this, we're going to take the energy, cause I'm already 29. So I'm already like, I'm like, you're going to pour that energy to me. Yeah, because it's like, you're like, you're one year younger than me. So it's like, I don't know. I don't think I'm doing it. Come on, months. Come on, guys. Like we're going to do this year. No, I think I don't think I'm like, I don't think I'm working hard enough. I love Clarks, cause she, cause I was looking at the team and I saw that she was there, but it was interesting. She's like, I just woke up and so I was just holding in. And it's like, it's just, it's just, it's just life though. It's just life. Okay, guys, we're going to go into what the actual episode is about, it was just about, it's never, ever, ever. So I don't know where I got this fucking idea, but I was just saying, I was like, I want to use never, ever, ever and just play a game. To me, I don't know, they're going to end the episode we're playing never, ever, ever. All right, guys, we're going to do it never, ever, ever. We have a lot of never, ever, ever questions. You have to play along with us too. Yeah. And do you have, do you have alcohol in this house? I do. We're going to do whoever, whoever's hands go down. We'll take a shot. Okay. What kind of liquor do you have? I love tequila. Keep all this here. That's what I was like, liquor. This is a good guy. That's what I was like, liquor. No, I, I, I think for me, it's difficult because I'm not popping. No, no, no, no, because you said you feel a lot more comfortable on like the podcast. I think for me is like, I keep popping off and on because I'm not on as much. As much as I know, but I'm also like, because I mean, it's kind of a weird thing. It's like, I know exactly how this is going to be caught, but it's, you know, so, but it helps my brain as a director. So I'm not really like, let's split the game. Okay. All right. First, never, ever, ever, never have I ever lied about my location to avoid hanging out. I have done that. I have. Even a lot of a location, don't know. I want my location. Yeah. Like, oh, I'm not in this place. But my father has, there was one time. I'll tell you a quick story, quick story. I went to an old boy secondary school for context, St. Gregory's College, Ikui, Vegas. I'm bougie. Anyway, I digress. It's been an hour, 20 minutes? It was. Yeah, only shit. Okay, I digress, I digress. But one time I needed money, right? You know, your boarded school year broke and I called my dad. And I didn't know that like, I had been calling my dad to ask him for a lot of money. He just found something that I was aware of. But this was the case. And my dad was like, oh, like, you know, he's not around right now. He's in Mina. And you don't know where Mina is. Mina is the capital of Niger estates in Nigeria. And he's like, he's there. And two years later, after I graduate, I was talking to my mom and my dad. And he was like, oh, you remember that time that you said, you asked me for money. They were on the bed together in the house laughing at me. Are you traumatized by that? I'm not, I'm not. I understood because it's like, if this man is asking you for so much money all the time. And mind you, this is not, well, I said so much money. I probably called him to be like, oh, can you send me five of them there? So I can have money for this week. But like extra anyway. That's what you wanted to say, don't you? Your fart smells like alcohol. I'm telling you, and I'm not even drunk alcohol. All right, let's do this. So that is, I did it. So that means, so who's going to drink? Is it the person who? How is this going to work? No, because you drink when you don't want to answer. No. Yeah, that's how it works. That's not my ever. I thought you drink if you hand down it. But you want to say the truth. You drink. OK. So you, well, that means you're saying the truth because you're drinking. I think the actually, you don't, you don't go to game nice. I'm getting a drink. So you're not saying the answer. So it's either true or no. Yeah, well, no, that's not true. Yeah, because there might be details. There might be an actual answer. Well, nobody actually said this to me. You don't have to be in this story. All right. Never have I ever presented like a brand gift that I ate it. No, I haven't done that. I have. Cool. What brand? Some microphone. Yeah, I can see that. Never have I ever blocked someone before responding. Oh, I have. Several times. I love blocking people. Like, it's my, like, it's my, like, let me tell you guys right now, OK? The time I was dragged, this past cancellation, whatever that happened, when I told you, I just was going into block block. If you think you're not seeing my contents because I blocked you. And let me tell you why. And I'm telling you, I didn't block everybody. If you came at me sideways, if you just said used to blocked, if I just saw a comment that was out of blocked, like you could disagree with me, but I will still block you. Because why do you think I will not block you on my own page when you're coming in and sorting me? If you disagree with me, that's different. But I will block you for saying some crazy stuff. I block people for random. Like, why? Is that why I know about this? I come as disappointed. It's like I replied to some people. I think I'm telling you, like, I don't think that no, like as I get notification, you see some of the crazy block block, right? I mean, I don't finish reading the comment. I don't care if you even agree with me at the end. I block you. Because why are you stressing me out? I don't want to go back to it. But like, I think like anybody who can corner the person your dog is actually crazy. Did someone really call me a dog? Yes. Like, you know, I keep coming back to you. Because you've run that so many times. You've run out so many times. So like, it's so weird. Yeah. That's why people like, before I so read it, really, really, really, you know, it's like, I'm reading a really, really, really, really. I saw, I saw my sister like, I'm just like, don't get so worried for me. I remember the time when I first started content where my, I think I was, I will get dragged. People will not agree with something I'd say. My friends will call me. They will be so worried. Because let me tell you this, normal people don't get this level of opinions directed at them. Like, it's not a normal thing for, I don't, I wish everybody could experience it. Like, to put yourself out there, to sit down on a couch like this and share your opinions online, knowing fully well, the moment this is posted, I'm inviting your opinions of me is terrifying. I, there's a level, there's a screw that's out of my head. That's the only reason I'm able to sit here to do that. Because a normal person should not feel this comfortable coming on the microphone. People should not have this much access. To opinions of other people, to opinions about themselves, to critical thinking, to all of it, to should not. I don't know what I'm saying anymore. The point is, the fact that people have, people don't understand how hard it is on someone's mental health is so sad to me. Like, and to people who like further that hate, and I will talk about it from like a perspective of, one of the people that I talked about, and I will bring this idea up, and I call them an idea for a reason. I don't even want to bring them up. I'm gonna bring them up anyways. But, I did a podcast episode and I was with another mutual of mine. And we had a conversation about somebody else's relationship and somebody else, somebody else was another creator. And that person is so known to be so vile and to be so rude to other people. That for me, the only acceptable reason to go back and forth with somebody is because you always already go back and forth with people. But if I'm like sitting here by myself, who do I go back and forth with? Who do I fight with? All I'm sitting here saying is, oh, I have an opinion, I'm gonna share it. And then you're gonna come and slap me and be like, if you're opinion, I will block you. And I'm gonna slap you back. Probably won't. Probably will say, take me out of that cheek, knowing me and my dominance. Anyways, rant over, moving on. Never have I ever blocked someone before responding, or I already said that one. I'm done that. I've done that, I'm sorry, I've done that. Never have I ever go with myself. I have to go with myself. Me too. Yeah, I feel like, I feel like I've not worked hard enough because I feel like I still want to Google myself more. Like I still want to do more stuff. Cause I'm up there, yeah. Sometimes I'm like, I need to hire a PR team. $6,000, $6,000. I need to hire an African PR team. Ha! Because I know $6,000. That's how I feel. No, because the level of PR that I want, I'm like, wow, people. I always say do your PR for yourself first. Of course. Yeah, I'm telling you, me and you sitting down six months, you know, we've been bringing me ourselves now. Six months of like proper, this is the one thing we're focused on. That's what other CTV is going to be next year. I'm telling you now, right now. Like I was also talking to you. I'm going to keep this in. I was talking to you. I really was just like, I'm just saying this out loud. No promises. I was like, honestly, if I do get a place in January, and I just have the studio that we wanted to just film. So focus less on furnishing the apartment, making this a big deal. And just like have that backdrop for like when I'm coming in, I have a bed, I sleep and I go, that might just be what I decide to do. That's fine. But we'll see. It also helps now that I'm a bit freer. So we'll see. I'm working. OK. I just thought about, at least you know what I'm just saying. Maybe I could just do that. That way when I come in, I want to stream and I want to work out and do all these things. I can just do that and focus slowly, maybe, maybe because then I will see. And I think about getting a card, and I might not just, maybe not. There's too much extra work. There's too much extra things in here. I think it won't allow, OK. Never have I ever dated someone for aesthetics. Never. Never. Never have I ever dated a post because it flopped. I have done that. Right now we have one post on my page. Huh? We have one post on my page. Undone old. Yeah, don't do that. Really? Yeah. You're such a fucking creative. You remind me of like them, I shall tell you what type of post. What post do you think it is? Yes. What post is it? It's just one post. What is it? If I was to take off all my post and leave one, what do you think it would be? No, that's too easy, bro. Whoa. One. Whoa. Marathon. Is it really? Yeah. I would've never guessed that. That was a hard thing to do. I cried. I know you did. Yeah. Put that I'm not thinking that. Really? Yeah. Because I'm like, I don't know if it impacted you that much. It did. Really? Marathon? Yeah. That was so hard. It was really hard. Yeah. I told you. I told you. It taught me like, it taught me like. Right now. Right now. I'm so slow. And like, I just like take my time and really think shit. It's because Marathon actually did not think it true. I booed those three. I was like, oh, I'm good. I'm prepared. And I just went through it. Never again. Never again. Did I not tell you that? I don't know. You did. I'm telling you. Yeah. This man was so helpless. I'd be like, I have the body. I should be fine. I look at it. No, because I'm very strong. It's a mind thing. It's a mind thing. Yeah. It's a mind. Especially because it's a mind thing. It changed my life. That name fudged me over. It changed my life. No. The process in the finished line. I did something. I don't know if I have ADHD. It's self-diagnosing. Well, crossing the finish line after all that work made me realize that like, because one of my biggest issues is not finishing because I get easily distracted was like, I was forced to like, I can't leave this thing. He has to finish it. That wasn't easy. Yeah. And since then doing puzzles and like everything, just like the idea of like, one thing really good at now is like, once I start something, I actually finished. Yeah. Yeah. I'm very quick with it too. I like that. So never have I been trying to pause because it flopped and said that never have I stalked someone. What does stalk mean? Like stalked someone on social media. Like, check it out. Check it out. Check it out. Check it out. There's no point. Say what you just drink. I'm just. Yeah. Well, I'm my drinking too. I don't want to drink because you have to see the person. Oh. I got a job. Why do we get that role? I don't know what that is. I don't know what that is. I don't know what that is. I don't know what that is. What the fuck is that? It's a Jewish team. What do you get? You're so party. I have friends. I don't know. Oh, I don't want that. Okay. That was stupid. I don't think I felt we just made up that we could drink because I don't know. I didn't know we're doing that. What the stalk someone? The story. Yeah. I don't know where to rename. I don't want to see it. Never have I ever been counseled fake or real, yeah, I have. Never have I ever cried over views. I have. Never been counciled. I'm so worried for you. Did they you get counseled? I probably will be my fault. Who me? Yeah. I mean, like, I've been dragged before. I will drag you. And I don't know. I think it's one of our viral like they do. Oh, yeah. I don't care about those things. Yeah. Never have I ever posted a nude by mistake. I have done that. I will never. I posted on my Snapchat story. 10 people saw it. And let me tell you the freaking story about that. Let me tell you the story. Yes. Subscribe to it. Snap to it. I don't do that. I would be so refrigerated. I had only fans. That's not the point. I wish I didn't have morals. That's not the point. Question. Who do you thought? Don't forget it. If you came to me and said, don't, I want to start it on my fans. You would agree with me. You said, okay. Like what? Why don't your ASAP? So I basically post a nude. I was sending to a friend. And I post on my Snapchat 10 people saw it, right? And four people took screenshots. Why would you do that? And at that point, Snapchat shows me who took a screenshot. So one of them was a girl. So I reached out to the other guys. They were like, well, so sorry. It was a mistake. No, it wasn't fucking delete that made them call me. I don't know if it was a lie, but I feel stronger that they deleted it. And if they don't, it was a sex photo. This is like pre-audity? Yes. Pre enough. Like 20, 20, 20, 20, 21, 2019. Okay. That year. This girl, this girl, a friend, a friend's girlfriend literally is screenshoting my naked photo. And I'm looking at her and I'm like, DM, I'm like, hey, baby, like, I saw you screenshot my Snapchat. It was a mistake that I posted it because she, I don't know, I've not been DM. She sent me a message and I'm like, oh my god, your body looks so good. Are you a smoker? First of all, it was a mistake that I posted that. So I was like, oh my god, like, you know, it was a mistake. I did it to the right and she's like, oh, but it looks so good. I had to save it. And I'm, I'm going to show it to my boyfriend. What? I was like, why would you do that? I was like, no, please take it down. I'm so uncomfortable. And she's like, oh, I'm so sorry. I just thought you meant to post it. I'll do it right now and I won't show him. Why would you want to show a naked photo of me to your boyfriend? So what I was saying is that there's certain things that are going in this world that I feel like some people might not be accustomed to, right? Let me give you an example. This is my girlfriend's Snapchat. We're going to her Snapchat. And one of her friend has a private story. He's gay. Not one of the story, but like, he's gay. She clicks on the story. And this is the first time I've ever seen him. Like, he was like, I've never seen, like, I've never seen gay sex in my brain. It was the first time I saw it. Yeah, such as a crazy private story. Yeah. Like in fucking hell. Honestly, it wasn't private story. It was a public story. It happens too. And I was like, is that it? Why are you just posting now? Yeah. People do that. So that's what I'm saying. What's up stories? You know, people have full on like posting sex. And like, I'm telling you, like, I didn't realize that people's like, it would be someone's husband who's known in public for posting people like posting just point on his WhatsApp story. It's so wild. Yeah, it's posting on this story. So, so my thing with that is like, that's why I think like the girl. Because you never really know, like, people like, no, I don't care. Why are you saying my body for the eye? And if I would you tell me, are you slow? I was so upset. Because you never know your response could have been. Oh, yeah, girl. Let me join y'all. I could have said that. I just, yeah, I wasn't, I didn't, yeah. Never ever wanted to quit the internet. I have. I still wanted to quit yesterday. Honestly, I wish the internet didn't exist. You won't have a job. I feel like we'll be okay. That's true. We're not working okay. Yeah, please. I know you don't like my no labor. Who said I was going to do the maneuver? Okay. Please. When does that come in? Oh, never ever. Never ever. Never ever. Never ever. Never ever. I said, I'm on my way while still in the shower. I've done that. Yeah. Oh, you've done that. I know it's chronically late. We before the time. That's not true. Never ever regretted a brand deal after signing it. I have done that. I have to right now. Really? Your brand two brand deals. Hi, my friend. Good job. I'm so proud. That's too much info for me. Don't worry. You got this. Never ever light up on my rates. Kind of like sometimes I make my rates higher and sometimes it works out. Sometimes it doesn't. It's true. I like that. Never ever reposted something without watching it first. I have. I have definitely reposted something. So I didn't finish watching. And then I can get in trouble before I go back to you. And I'm like, I don't think I should have reposted it. Me too. Your stuff or anything. I might too. Yeah, reposted. That's true. Never ever ever going on a date. Just revives. I've actually not done that. I've probably done that by doing there was a date. That sounds about right. That sounds like a you thing. That sounds for sure. Never ever ever had a secret burner account. I don't because like I tell people who is my burner account. Like it's not secret. Yeah. But we're in our council. Like user five, four, three, two, nine, eight, one, anybody. No, do you? I just use my men accounts. Yeah. I don't want to see it. Yeah. Yeah. I don't want to watch your story because like you're going to see. I'll just meet you. I'll block you. I'm such a I would find like I'm thank God for ADHD because I am outside out of mind. If I don't see you, I would not remember. And I would try my hardest. That's why I'm very good at distancing myself. It was long. Especially like for me, it's like how I meet new people. Especially when I used to do music videos back when I was like living in Nigeria. I used to DM people a lot. So one thing about me, I'm not afraid to DM people. I'm not afraid to DM people. I'm not afraid to walk up to people. That's how we need to meet. That's true. That's true. That's true. That's true. That's true. That's true. It's very creepy. Never ever ever go to someone professionally. I have. But I don't intentionally do it. Guys, okay, there's something I just learned from Stephen Burlett. Bartlett's something about your social PR or PR currency. So I don't know what you called it. But the idea that people's perceptions of you are very important, especially within our industry. And something that I get so nervous about sometimes is my ADHD makes me appear professionally very disengaged. Let me use that. And it's oftentimes because of my anxiety and my nerves and how forgetful I get. So I worry sometimes that people who have worked with me in the past might be like, oh, she's not responsive. But I'm just like, I just couldn't see it. Well, I was going through something at the time. Well, I'm just human and I worry that my social current, like unless you know me, like you know me enough to make excuses for me. Does that make sense? Like if I don't show up, I'm a responsive, like the way I text on old, I swear, not very people can't work with me because we just we gel really well. But I imagine someone who's new to working with me professionally seen how I engage and like know having the patience to understand that it's not intentional and not being rude or whatever. I'm just, that's just how my brain functions. So I just get so worried sometimes. So I have multiple professionally and then it could be three months and I'm like, oh, oh, my god. Now we'll get the most out of like I never responded. Like stylist, photographers, videographers, people I've always wanted to work with. And like this is like a dream opportunity that I just I would have forgotten because something else came up in my head. I think it's easier when you're working with like one people like like one person. Yeah. Well, when it becomes a team, it gets a little bit tricky tricky for sure. Yeah. And this is like in terms in terms of you. I saw something happened to me today that I sent a feedback from a client's project and I sent I sent an email when the email like I I use that I didn't use AI for the email by use AI to transcribe my call with the kind and a lot of the things that the client said about like how good the work was and everything about the telemetry to include those things into the email. I'm going to read you like real quick like what the responses I got from my team to that email. To the email that the designer was like, this is great. I'll make the change to YouTube banner and have it sent over tomorrow. And then the social media person was like, this is really great feedback. I mean did God already working on the two S and captions would make changes great work to all of us. But I was not an interesting part. It was like it actually went from emails to stock. So in stock that the team goes like someone says, this is such great feedback. Thank you for sending this. Someone said the feedback made me smile from year to year. Great motivation for the pending task. And then this is in the team space. Another person on my team who is not on this project said God when like none of like their own projects have ever had this level of response. And it's someone like you're a part of the team. And it just like hit me because I'm like, how is it important to actually make sure that like the people that are working for you like feel that you know that level of like recognition and support. Trying to figure out what you're going with that. Because like for me, it's like, oh wait, when we get to completion, great. We're like in the team. Because for me, I just sent an email and I'm just like being clear like, why did you bring this up? Because of what you just said. What did I just say? You just talked about like because of your A.D.H. show, show PR and work people. It's like how the people, so like, you're trying to show me how people respond to actually intention around working in a different way. I was like, because my goal was not to get people to feel that way. Yeah, but that's how I felt. Because we do have a brain things. We go into things with like, this is the intention that we want. And if the intention is not that that's not what we're going with. But it's like interesting that we're different. You bring up so many things that trigger me right now because intention versus reaction. Like you might intend, like you might intend something, but then people's, if people's reactions are different, negative or positive. How then you react to that too can also be a huge thing. Okay. Next one is never, ever, ever used soft life as a justification for bad decisions. No, I haven't done that. Soft life. Yeah. Me and Uber eats. Oh, yeah, I can see that. No, I feel like I'm in software, but I wasn't like, I feel like it's more of a girly thing. But Uber is too if you want to use that. Yeah, I think I comfort, like comfort over over over over for sure. Comfort over you know me at all. Is that good though? Yes. To an extent. Very good. All the extent. I get so jealous of women. I'm so jealous of girls. I'm telling you guys, because why are you making this a girl thing? Let me tell you why you should. My friend, who's house I'm staying at right now, she's a girl to me. And I don't know if it's because she asked to, but I don't know if she was just raised by. Okay. I'm finding it. My mom wasn't a girl. And when I say that, I mean that as in like a traditional girl girl. Like if you've seen that episode, you didn't know what you mean. Yeah, like she was an independent single mom. So there was only time for like, let me go dress shopping with my baby. Let me put makeup on. Let me teach her how to do makeup her period. There was very little of that happening. And I always see young women or young girls whose moms were girly girls like that. And how much that impacts them growing up. Like they dress up differently. Or maybe their parents weren't, but they see other people are doing it. Then they get interested in it. But I never, I just wanted to be like my mom. So I never really fixed it on those kind of things. And I see girls now who were very into the aesthetic. I just get jealous of that because I wish I also had that. Like that's why I started wearing like permanent jewelry and being more into my appearance. Like all the times that black thing that I hadn't said my shirt, I would have left it. So I wouldn't care what my appearance looked like. So I was trying to get my message across. But there's a level of soft-slifed aesthetics of presentation that everybody needs in their lives for them to be maybe taken seriously. Like how you dress, you're very intentional about it. Do not kind of leave this house looking rough. I've never seen you wearing like sweats that like have linked on them. Like you walked up here and you were like, oh, this white thing. And I was like, look at my pants. You see all these faucets? I mean, hey, and I don't have hair. And I don't care. But like, I want to get into that. That's why I made my soft life. I'm like, this is more stuff that you're doing is just like, you know, you're going to make a bad decision about all these things. You want to try it anyways. But I'm just like, no, I don't even do that. Never ever have a screen shot. One person sent another all the time. How do I pass just what? I will screen shot. I will screen record if I can. Or I think I have three phones. I'll use one of them for the photo. I'm a criminal when it comes to screenshots. Never have I ever manifested something delusional and actually got it all the time, baby. Yeah. All the time. Never have I ever pretended my phone died. So I've watched the FaceTime most rolling through TikTok the whole time. I haven't done that. Because I was just not I wouldn't. I wouldn't pretend my phone died. But I've definitely ignored the calls before. Like, if I didn't want to talk, I would ignore it. Yeah, I just don't pick up. Yeah, I just don't pick up. Never have I ever posted soft life content while having less money in my account. No. No, I don't. I don't pull out. I'm broke at my home. Never have I ever liked a messy tweet by accident. And unlike it, I have done that. The one of times I get in trouble for liking something and I have really tough time. Because I'm just like, I'm supportive. I'm just going, going, going, going. And I'm going in so much trouble for not actually watching a face in my brain. You know, I don't. That's interesting. I don't think I do. I feel for me like, I cut myself with YouTube a lot. It's like, it takes for me to like something for me to actually give YouTube like, like, I've watched the video and it impacts me. I'm like, oh, I'm not someone who would just like start watching the video. I'll just like it just because no, I'm very much like that. Never ever, ever lied about being busy when I was just overwhelmed. Yeah. I mean, but most times like, we are. Also, my life is busy. People don't know the overwhelmed in the moment. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Never ever ever meet someone I love because their life is going to what I needed a break. I've done that. I haven't. Yeah. No, I have. I think usually that's when I'm, I'm getting in one of those like my comparison moments where I'm most like, I wish I was doing this. So I always mute because I know I don't want the negative thoughts, especially if I'm happy for them. And then I tend to do the inner work and then go back to meet them to see if I engage with the content differently. And I like to also say this like, it's okay to do that. Like I just feel so guilty. I'm like, I'm a terrible person. But I'm like, no, like jealousy is a real thing. And for me, it's not once it feels envious. It's because I don't dare. Someone like, maybe it's a bad person. And I just really am upset that like, how can you be so bad and so mean and still be winning? It folks in my head a lot because I'm like, well, I should good people not win too. Yeah. And then it makes me feel depressed. I think one of my biggest brain fucks at the time was there's this one person who was, I just knew they were not a good person, but they kept winning. And in my head, I was just like, they want the point of me being good too. I was younger than if being bad also gets you rewarded. But I also realized that that's really not what it is. It's just, I think also my dream would be to do a video about that once when she said, by people also are successful. I was just up saying, oh, if you're a good person, you'd be successful. That's what's really like. Yeah. It's not. It's not. It's not. It's not. It's not just a success. Yeah. Yeah. I think mine would be obsessive. I'm very obsessive. So like, it's hard for me to, like, if I see someone who's doing really well, I get obsessed and I get inspired and all that. And all that. My jealousy would be a lot more positive. Like I watch all their stuff. Yeah. Yeah. So make sure, no, no, no, no, mine isn't. I get very like, I don't want to watch it. I get obsessed. I get, yeah. Oh, never ever going through someone's following list I have. So if I'm looking for something, I have you've definitely helped me get through someone's following list. I forgot. Yeah. I forgot here. If I were going through my partner's phone, I wouldn't take an extra long. I have. And I will never do it again. No, no, I don't agree now. Well, I don't agree with never doing that. No, because I feel like I've never done that before. I'm never, it doesn't matter. What you need to do is you need to fix it from because the place that's which you, you looked was a place. Just what I mean, do you know what I'm saying? It's like, you know, when you, when you, the intention behind looking is actually important. This state of is important. Is it for me? I would look, but I have to be balanced in my head. I'm not going in terms of like, I'm going because I want to know. No, the only time I looked at my partners from that one time was less about what I was going to see and more of my worry about them. Like, I was so worried that someone was taking advantage of them. I wanted to find proofs to show them, like, see this person. I think that's justifiable. No, I feel like nothing's just far with the other person doesn't feel like it is. I mean, because I'm just like, if they're taking advantage of somebody, honestly, in that situation, their fingers don't actually matter. And it's not a nice thing. It's because it's not about the person. Yeah, it's your phone. Yeah, that's also our phone. Our phone is crazy. You want to look at my phone. My phone is open. No, my partner, partner in your password. Oh, I love that. Yeah, I'm cute. You learn, don't you? Never ever ever text someone I miss you at a border. I'm not emotion. I have done that. I've never done that. Oh, such a dick. This is fucking karma. Yeah, I've never ever blitted with someone just to prove I still had it. I haven't done that. I'm afraid someone just to prove I still have it. I don't need to prove that I still have it. Because you know, you do it. No, I don't. I don't think so. I don't think so. If I ever talk trash about another creator's content, the part of that one that's this for me is like, the checker's not too good. Never ever talk trash about another creator's content. Then collab with them later. I've never done I don't know how to fix things. There's so many creators now who people will be like, oh, I should work with. And I'm like, you guys will know if I'm not cool. Actually, you won't never talk trash about their content. If I've met them in person, and they're in a city, I probably talk trash about them being shitty. Yeah. Yeah. But then like see that they change. And I'm like, okay, cool. Do people change? Never ever ever screen shot a PR email to send to the group chat before applying professionally. Not really. I don't know. It's weird. Never ever gone back to someone who embarrassed me publicly because this time will be different. Never done that. I never will. If you embarrass me publicly, I'm going to slap you. Don't domestic violence. Take that back. This is a partner. It's someone. Yeah, but this time will be different means. Oh, well, if it's not part now, I have, oh, I have. Oh, and they've showed me shaggy pro max. Oh, guys, when I tell you, let me tell you something. We just read it. I know you. Are you 20 times? Which one you want to pick from? Which one? Which one? Which one? Yeah. Which one? Which gender? I don't know. I don't know what my problem is, but I'm working on it. That's all I can say. Guys, it is so hard when you don't realize that people aren't just good. Yeah, that people are selfish. And the amount of friends. Friends. Friends. That's crazy. The amount of friends that they would show me who they were and I would argue against them. They're telling me who they are. I'm telling them, no, don't worry. You can't be like that. Let me help you see better. And then they hurt me and they still circle back and I still accept them back. You stay miles for a month. You know what? You know what? I think with this, right? I think when it comes to you, it's two things because I'm always like, oh, I should give her the advice of just like, like actually like be rigid with it. But at the same time, I also know that that's not you. And I think like, if you have a friend or you have someone who has been in your life and like, the, you know, disappointed you in like their actions, I think like, I think it's okay. Because I feel like there's no way like you're going to spend time and like come together with someone that like, I think humans, we just like connect. We have that electricity. So it's like, that connection is going to happen. I also think that like, I think, this is so sad. I think on some level, I can handle pain. I don't agree. Let me explain what I mean by that. That you sound like a drug addict. No, no, no, no, no. My therapist doesn't say this to me. Let me explain. Okay. Yeah, it's 30. Okay. So apparently because of my idea of like, I can handle suffering. I can handle pain because people are going through it. I can help them. That's where I come from. So if a friend, for example, is very mean to me, does not communicate with me. It's like, this is the best example, right? Like I found, I got a, I got a job or something. And this friend is like, they hate me for the job. They're very mean to me. They kick me out of the house. They do all these things for me, right? In my head, when I see that, I don't take that as this is a terrible person. I take that as, oh, someone hurt them before that made them hate me for getting this job and not being successful. If I can just show them that they can also get the job to, then they wouldn't be so mad at me. And they will still be friends and I can help them be successful. That's where I think I don't think I don't think I can go F them. Why would they, no, I'm thinking how can I help them because of their hurt? And it's fine if they hurt me in the process, but I'm a big girl. And that's the issue. So it take my friends to say, it takes me like too long to realize somebody is not going to change. And that is where I'm trying to learn now that I deserve to have boundaries on my own safe space. Like I deserve care. I deserve to have somebody who's going to fight for me the way I fight for them. And they've been friends in my life. I imagine the one I just came last year, the one that happened. And I just really wanted me and her to be best friends. And I tried everything, but I realized like some people are just hell bent on competing with you or you know, just they just have an idea of who you are that would never change. And that's okay. And I didn't realize that. That's how you see. And that's how they see it too. Oh God, guys, when I tell you, I remember I was running my marathon. I'm not going to tell you this person is, but I was only the principal story. I was running my marathon. And as a friend who I just don't so much for the months before, I was running my marathon. And I even had to remember, I had to call the person because I was so worried about something that was going on with them mid marathon. Like I was doing something hard, still caring and thinking about them. And realizing at that point, when I got off the phone, I was just like, why did I do that? Like why did I stretch out my hand for that extra level of care that they would have never afforded to me? They would never thought about me in that way. And I was like, my wake up call of, oh, these people actually don't give a fudge about you. And that's okay. So, okay, moving on from that, because I was getting deep. Wait, before it goes to the next one. God. Because I want to talk about that. This is guy that made this video. I know if it was Jo Kim, but I thought was very genius. He was talking about nine jeans, right? But I just say people. But he was talking about nine jeans, particularly. And he was like, oh, this is the reason why I can never be happy with nine jurns. Crazy statement. But he said some people are like pepe, turn pro like on yours. Okay. Some people are like, oh, wait, I love him. Sometimes I love him. He's like, Oh, check. Yes. The way he talked about like making the soup. Making the soup. Because what I was going to say to you was like, one of the views that I would probably like die on. The order I get is that like the people, because we know how we are, right? And at the order we grow, the more we understand the kind of people we want to interact with, I truly believe that like if we spend enough time like on this planet, we're going to build a community of those people. And I think the people who like I started to see people who fall out of my life. Because for me, it's like, I'm someone who's like, I'm like, I'm a diehard, right? For you to live my life is because like you just decided to quit. And if you decide to quit, to me, I'm like, that's the universe kind of like moving your away. It's actually done for my good. It's like this person is because it's like, sometimes you feel like you're forcing like you want this person to be in your life where it's like they're doing everything they can. To not be in your life. To not be like dragging them back. Come here. And that's the way of just like going so that it can also create space for people. And we'll see. I might be wrong. Never have I ever been the toxic one. I'm pretending it was the other person. No. I don't think so. I'm not that kind of person. I might have done something toxic, right? But I don't think I would continue to live. I'm too self-aware to be toxic. That's my issue. Multiple times. What do you mean? Like I might do something toxic, but like it says like be the toxic one and pretend I was the other person. Like I would never think he was the other person. I know it was me that was moving. Yeah. I'm so self-aware for that. Like I think I know when I'm acting up and I will even say it, I'll be like, I know I'm moving this way, but I need to understand why I'm moving this way. Never ever ever posted a subliminal code and hoped one specific person saw it's unsatisfied. Oh my god, my repost on TikTok and my repost on Instagram. If you wasn't I was going into my head, check my repost. That is my subliminal because I remember the time I remember I used to tweet on BBM Messenger and stuff like that. That was my mom is the exact, my mom is the perfect. I got it from her. She loves the good subliminal code. Like she loves it good. May god help me. My children, like she loves to post it like that. I love doing that too. Like my repost right now, I'm like, if I'm in my feelings about something if I'm tired of I'm overwhelmed, my repost always show it, especially on TikTok. Yeah. So for sure. What about you? Never done that. I know you don't repost stuff. I'll say it's your face. No, but I'm not saying I'm not saying it's your face. Well, let me give an example. So you're not going to be like, I'm crazy. Like I'm just saying like there's certain things that you might be going through and like you're just scrolling online and then you see it and then you're just like, Oh, this makes sense. I know. Like this one is like, I just feel like periods should be 45 minutes max. Like I don't want to do a video, but I want to see that. Of course. Yeah. Yeah. That's why I think I do that one. Whatever. Yeah. But we're talking about like the sharing of your stuff. Like, oh, you break up with someone. No. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Let's move on. Never have I ever drug someone in the group chat. Then hug them in real life. No. I don't know how to do that. No. I'll tell you I drugged you and then hug you. Never have I ever created my own heartbreak by imagining relationships in my head. No. No. Never have I ever lied during it. Never have I ever. Never. I might have. Well, no, this one. No. Then during a never have I've been lying in this one. No. Yeah. In the during that games night. Oh, yeah. Be lying to me. People are nosy. Never have I ever. Huh? I don't like anymore. I'm too good. Never have I ever registered a message to someone else to respond because I have no original thought. She's rude. I've actually done me and chat. She goes to get a real bad. I'm like, if someone was in the middle of a queue, I mean, he called with this person the same. So I don't misinterpret it because I don't watch. I just pity and like people being because I thought people could never type messages before. And I would depend. I think it helps. I think honestly, I'm always up for regulated advancements. Issues always when it's not regulated. And I think the problem with AI and child gibberish is not regulated yet. Because if not, it's just another tool to help you. Like that's all it is. Like the one of times before saving now on a lot of stuff that is supposed to be critical thinking is definitely worrisome. But what difference did it make that before I used to write five page essays with my hand. And now people can write five pages essays with child gibberish. I mean, the thing is, if you're not a good writer, then you're probably not a good editor. And if you don't know how to edit, it doesn't change. It doesn't change. Because actually, I mean, ask a promise. You're not ready. It doesn't change. It doesn't change. It's like you're already. You're you're you're fucked from. Yeah, like I mean, people are talking about AIS. You also need to guide. Like you need to guide. But the goal is to get to AGI. What's that? Like I think I don't know what A is, but general intelligence where like we actually don't need to input anymore. And like it just comes up with it. So general intelligence. If there's the AI bubble still thing. Okay, never have I ever said New Year knew me while doing the same exact things. I have done that. It's a struggle. I what gonna do this when I come up to film. I want to review my last years vision board. The things I put on that list was I dreaming of smoking because what did I think I was doing? Same here. We did it together. We did it together. We also be very, very careful this year about she being intention about the goal. Let's have like a big part of mine was travel. And that didn't even happen. Yeah, but we work on it. Man, don't do our yearly vision board. So we should see. Never ever let someone think the breakup was mean show when I was actually sobbing. No, I don't know how to lie. I'm very much like if something's happening to me, I would say it. Like I don't know how to lie. I've done that before. Of course you have. No, yeah, my ex. It crushed me more than you. Yeah, but you didn't. She was the first girl that I ever loved. But when I wasn't right, I saw this little sun. Yeah, but like when we broke up, I was like, oh, like G. Yeah. And then I was like, I don't know if we would do that. Like, I'm so I'm like, if you hurt me now, I will cry in front of you. I can't hide my I don't mean else pretend. Now, after I will be fine, because I feel like my friends always say they're like, why are you so okay? And I'm like, I'm not, but I know how to I love myself feel. Right. I think a lot of people don't let themselves do it. But you read that side about it. Yeah, I feel like men are so well for that particular one. Because of the way the like, you know, when someone is about to like, not like when you put about to break up and you can tell that the person is being like extremely selfish. Yeah. In that moment, I was like, oh, this person is choosing herself. He's choosing like her family, like all those things. So I never want to give her the benefit of even showing you that. Because I was like, this show was made. Yeah, it was like, yeah, I was like, yeah, it sounds familiar. I'm never ever gone on a date knowing fully well, I wasn't emotionally available. I have. I regret that. I didn't feel good about it. Your last one. I didn't regret that. Never ever ever stayed in the situation, she'd have had a zero percent chance of becoming a relationship. I have not. I feel like you had right. Oh, that one. I'm mutual. I said yeah. Yeah, I remember that one. She's married now. I forgot about that. Oh, my God, guys. Well, guys, girls and gays, guys, the end of today's episode of Amai Salad, the podcast, we're ending it there. It's been a long episode. What was you on doing? Amai Salad obsession? No, that's separately at the end of it. What I don't want to do, I don't want to do it for this episode. It's for like a big one. Because you know, you never don't know. Amai Salad, if I do that, but one of our different ones here. Oh, guys, as I said, this episode of Amai Salad, the podcast with Sophie, aka, the mother-of-the-courtity, and my co-host, Sierra, for the day. Don't do it. I knew we're going to do something stupid. 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