Am I a 'Masculine' Woman? - Ep 19

Welcome to Amai To Allow the podcast. Donald, I believe that when we are born, every human or baby is born with 50% masking energy and 50% feminine energy. And as you grow up, society and culture and life and needs and wants and just like personality, then dictates which of the energies you have more of or which one has less of. I don't think anyone is born to be strictly fully masculine energy or feminine energy fully. Amai To Allow for thinking that. Yeah, you think so? You believe me? Yeah. You agree? Yeah. I thought it was going to be a real estate. We all started at a neutral point. I think everyone starts at a neutral point. Hey guys, welcome back to Amai To Allow the podcast with Sophie, aka The Oddity. We're trying something new. Hey guys, if you're an OG listener, we're trying something newer, we start every episode with a crazy odd take. That is my odd take for this episode and clearly by the odd take, we're going to be talking about masculine and feminine energies and probably like Sophie, why this random conversation? It's not random because I got a comment on my YouTube channel the other day where someone basically said that I, they can tell I've been sitting in my feminine era a bit more. And that's really stuck to me. And over the past year, I was very adamant that I wanted to be more feminine and just be a more of a feminine era. And so I was like, let's have a conversation of femininity versus masculinity and what that deals with. Especially because like, there's so much nuance to femininity and masculinity and especially you feel like it will be a really good fun conversation because Donald is here and Donald is masculine presenting which means you're, which means you identify as a man, right? Yes. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. What did you see who confused? I never, I never think about it like that. That's a very big privilege and I'm really proud of you for acknowledging that. That's a privilege? Yeah. Why is that a privilege? I don't know. I just felt like saying that. I feel like I'm gorgeous. I do? Okay. Yeah. I do. Okay. What have we got on? We've got to add the point. Don't bring me into this. Look guys, we're talking about masculine and feminine energies and we're going to be talking with my iPad a lot because I have notes for this episode. This is like, she made notes. I made notes because it's like a think piece that I went into a deep dive in the other day. And it's just, if you've been following along this Justin Baldoni versus Blake Live Lee drama too. And everybody says Justin Baldoni is like a very, like he's a man who's very in tune with his feminine side. Right? And then Ryan Reynolds is like this aggressive masculine man who's like just like a meanie and a bully and like Blake Live Lee is also in her like masculine era, like a meanie and bully too. As you say that. Yeah. I'm getting triggered. Really? Yes. I'm getting triggered. Tell me why. I'm not jumping. I'm just like, you need to read the notes of the podcast. Let's get to it. Oh my goodness. Okay. Okay. I feel you heavy because I was also like, because people think like masculine energy is like very like hard and mean and bad and feminine energy is like very soft and like calm and whatever. And then I'm like, no, no, no, I don't think that's true. So let's talk about it. First of all, I'm going to describe what I just, I read up, okay? So these two are very polarizing, right? They're like direct opposites of the coin. If you think about like the sun and the moon, like how they rotate, masculine and feminine energy and femininity. Okay. Now for this episode. I don't understand. I love that we're doing like the definition. Yeah, right? Because like. I'm going to leave it to the last episode. I don't want to leave it to the sun. I know. I'm learning. We're learning a lot. I want people to also learn. I want them to take the stuff, show her away from the podcast. I hope you guys are learning something. I hope you guys are learning something. Okay. Okay. Don't hold on to me. I'm going to teach her. Oh, I should have worn my glasses. So I feel like a nerd. A nerd? A nerd. Okay. This is why we're not taking seriously focus. Okay. Okay. Okay. Listen. All right. Feminine energy of our being can be described as the Yin. Right? Because sort of like Yin and Yang. Yin is like the world. Yang is like the world too. But Yin is like, they describe feminine energy as like passive, receptive, sensitive, standing still, like creation, wild, even a bit chaotic. Right? Think about it like Eve. Now, what I was going to say earlier is masculinity and feminine energy is not male and female. Right? If I say you have masculine energy, I'm not saying you're a man. It just, it's just M and F. Let's just say like that. It's not like necessarily like you have to be a man and have masculine energy as a woman you can have both. It exists in all of us. On the other hand, our masculine energy is like Yang, very active, providing direction, focused on problem solving and it's a need to move forward and be productive. The masculine pole is more related to moving towards achieving goals and the feminine pole is more related to deepening, deepening or, okay, I can't read, is more related to towards a deepened level of life and going with the flow. So here are some characteristics, I should say, of feminine energy versus masculine energy. Feminine energy is patient. It's internal energy. It's introspective. It's compassionate. It's yielding. It's nurturing. It's very right brain, very intuitive, very creative, very ambivalent, very like quality over quantity. It's very synchronicity, synchronicity, synchronicity, that's the word synchronicity, but it's synchronicity nature, meaning like it's like it flows. It's very soft, right? And then if it's like, if you have too much of feminine energy, then you can be seen as very needy, very confused, very like you're a matter, you want to save everybody. And you also can be very depressed, if you have a lot of feminine energy, right? Okay. So if you have a lot of masculine energy, you're very active, it's very external energy, it's very assertion, it's very like valor, so dominating, it's very initiating, like you're starting stuff, it's very like left brain and logical, it's very consensuous, it's very certain, it's all about quantity, not necessarily quality, it's all about cause and effects. So what's going to happen here is it caused this, it's very hard. And then if you have that in excess, you're very rigid, you're like forcing a lot of things, you're very dominant, and you also have a lot of anxiety. Okay. We've seen what those put to polarizing things are, I also just want to point on that, they also like, you can use both of them cause we all use both of them, like they're both like very day in, day out. What are your thoughts Donald? That human beings are both masculine and feminine in the same time. Okay. Do you think you have more of what? I think it depends on the situation. Really? Okay. I'm definitely more masculine. Okay. But depending on... You know, I push back on that. In general, like front face, like someone meets me first time in a minute. No, no cause I think you're thinking about it physicality. Like I think about it. It's just like in general. I don't think so, I do not believe so. I don't think you're impressed. I think, no, no, no, sorry, not to interrupt, but interrupting. Okay. To the kids. I think if they meet you outwardly, you look very male. Okay. What's talking about energy? So we're talking about internal and energy. Energy is not outward facing. So if anyone has a conversation with you, I don't think they're going to describe you as having a lot of masculine energy because I think you're very... Like to pretend. You see what I mean? Right. Like I think on the flip side, when I present very feminine, but if you have a conversation with me, I'm very... Like I have very a lot of masculine energy because I'm very rigid. I want to say we're both... I want to say like I'm not like emotional because I am, but first conversations with me. I think we're flipped because as a man, I connect a lot faster. Yes. Right. Yes. Okay. That makes sense. Okay. I couldn't be as... Yeah. Yeah. And I think that's why we work so well because I think you're very in tune with the feminine energy in you. And not necessarily like it's... And I feel like in this conversation, I want to be like, it's not a bad thing, right? Because that's what we're... Every guy we hear that might be. Yeah. And I love that. Because this is what we do with friends. Good guy. Good job. Keep going. It's not... When you... When you go into those interactions and you use that side of you, and you understand like the greatness that comes from it, it's not a... Yes. It's more like... A more. Yeah. Very... Okay, done, done. All right. You guys, we love that. Okay. Moving on. Everyone has both feminine and masculine traits and varying degrees. Not all women are highly feminine and not all men are highly masculine. Do you think that in this situation... So let me point out where we're saying this. I have struggled a lot my entire life with having too much masculine energy. I think I have too much masculine energy. I don't let a lot of people... I don't allow myself to sit in my femininity, right? Because I oftentimes would see feminine energy as a weakness, right? And I think what I've learned in the past year is to one, be proud of the fact that like I have all these masculine energy traits. But also that it's okay to take a step back and also be very introspective about the things I want. Like I think the world would be a better place if people allow themselves honing on both sides of themselves. Because I know a lot of men who, you know, talk sick masculinity is a big example of this, right? Talks about masculinity is when all those things that we talked about earlier, like external energy, assertion, dominating, like you feel like you have to present it in a way, that's a lot of men are depressed and they're sad because they're anxious, they're overwhelmed, they're aggressive, they're rigid, they're all these things because they don't allow themselves sit and think. Because I feel like if you think more, I think a lot of things would not be wrong with the world. Right. Thank you from the concept of a king and a young man. Yeah. The whole point of being a young man is creating... Oh my god, you're wearing black and white. Oh, is there a... Yeah, it is... Yeah, you can, yeah. And the whole point of being a young is creating balance, right? And I think society has done a bad job of separating the masculine and feminine and like, okay, this is something that happens in a man and a woman. And everybody tries to make that side. We're like, like you said in perspective, right? It's like thinking about how that balance even exists. So for you, it's like, yes, you're masculine, but it's like, how does that balance? Because I, by knowing you, I know how you balance it, right? And obviously, one overtake... It depends on the scenario, right? That's true. Sometimes, like, the dog is called, now I'm not saying the dog can be feminine. You see what I mean? Who's the dog? The dog is like the... The logical, like... Well, how would you choose a dog? That was such a random thing. That's what they call like the dog you use. Oh! Oh, yeah. In this case, I'm taking the dog as like masculine, right? Okay, okay, okay. I've fallen out. When the dog wants to come out, the dog can come out. Right. But when the pony... It's not helping. You're losing me? Bring it back. The pony loses sense of the feminine. Okay. If you lose some ponies and men... What? What is going on? We have lost the plot. I'm trying to... Tunnel? What are you trying to say? What's the most famous thing in society, right? A lot of people are not using both. Right? We're not trying to find the balance internally. Yes. Because we're all pushing it towards gender. Because... Yes. These are separate things. Yes. Okay. Ah. That's my point. I wouldn't lie. Explain it to the camera. Right. Right in the comments. This is my point. We're just explaining to me. We're talking to me right now. Not like audience. Yes. Okay. But think about it in this way. Okay. You talked about introspection. Uh-huh. I'm saying that society... Right. We're used to assigning masculine and feminine energy to what's the gender. Right. It's male and female. Yes. Right. But I'm saying... Yigin Yang in itself is supposed to be balanced. Yes. And the solution could be finding that balance within ourselves. Yes. For example, you... You say you tend to be more masculine. Yes. But you're a woman. Yes. Just what I mean. Yes. So, like, the balance is like... How you find the balance... And that moment is like... In you. In you. Actually, how you balance your masculine and feminine side and other... Yeah. Both of them to coexist without feeling that either of them is too much. I want to throw a freaking curve ball into this conversation. Okay. Do you believe that they're only two genders? Whoa. Good point. Good point, right? Pause. Good point. I think this is how we've gotten here. Okay. I think how... Now, this is going to be saying... From my perspective. Right? With how... No, no, no. From my perspective. Okay. I've been brought up into the world understanding that there's male and female. Right? And you get to meet a lot of people in the world who don't want... They don't feel like they're male or female. Right? Which is fine. That's completely fine. But I think part of that conversation is this masculine and feminine energy thing. Right? It's like... It's so... As signs that people are like... If you're seeing like... Being masculine is like male. I don't feel that. Right? Like... No, like... Of course... This is so thoughtful. He said one of the reasons why he wanted to become a woman is because when he thinks about himself... All those attributes... He thinks about himself as nurturing, caring for his own... He's taking care of his dad and all those things. You're so intuitive. Good job. But basically, hence why he wanted to do that. That's what he was thinking. Right? So, I don't know if like... That's the reason why most people don't want to be male or female. Right? Like, not wanting to be in a box is understandable in that conversation. So... Okay. I love that through that. So why bring that up is because I really genuinely believe that gender is fluid. I do. I think... I think... To be a human is to be insane. Right? Because we live in such a crazy world because nobody can sit here right now and tell me exactly what the end of the world would look like. You can say you believe in my look a certain way based on your belief system, what's religion, what you've been taught, society, culture, all that stuff. You might have a belief of what it looks like. But you cannot concretely have factual evidence to say that is exactly what it is. Right? And I think for us to survive we needed some type of structure within human nature. And I think that's where male and female came in. And what I've read up when I'm with history is that in the past there's always been... And we're taking out religion here, we're taking out culture, all the stuff. And even many cultures too, they've always been folks who identified in between. And they thought it was a spectrum. Like, people dressed certain with different cultures always had that. And I think as there was a rise of Christianity, the sort of Catholicism, evangelism, Islam, Judaism, all this stuff, it began to be very clear that they just wanted male and female. The story of the Bible, Adam and Eve and all that stuff. But at the core, I really do believe that gender is fluid. And this makes my point when I'm thinking about the energies that should be different people. As humans, I don't think... How do I say this? I think it's important to feel two things. I feel like it's important to have both masculine and feminine energy, because I think that's where balance comes in. Young and young again. And I think when we start looking at gender and we're ascribed male to masculine, female to feminine, we get the issues that we have. Now we just want you to end up saying earlier. Right. Yeah. So, just curious. So, when you say this is something that is... It exists, right? It's like each person has masculine and feminine energy. Right. So, let's talk about this toxic, the toxic masculinity met. Right. Why do you think they lean too much towards the masculine side? Why do you think they are so... Society. Right. Because think about it. How we're born, how we're raised. Again, it's all about structure and control. Right. Or you're born. But before you're born, your mom and dad, your parents, right? Again, society. Your parents do gender reveal and they'll say you're a born and a girl. Boys like blue. Boys like fire trucks. Boys like danger. Boys like dinosaurs. Girls like Barbies. And they like cooking. And they like cleaning. And they like makeup and lip gloss. So, you grow up hearing those things. You grow up hearing everything we attribute to masculinity here. For the most part is usually pushed for like a boy or a man. And the things we attribute to be feminine here is pushed to be for women. Or young girls. And then when you have the girl who's like dominating, who's still very much like a girl who wants to identify as a girl, she's either told to calm down. Stop being so loud. Stop being so arrogant. Like, I have been told to stop being all the things that I think I represent the masculine energy in me because it's not women like. I won't find a husband if I behave this way. I won't date somebody if I behave this way. I won't, you know what I mean? You hear those all the time. So I think society has constructed these things as a way to keep us in check. And I think that's the unfortunate part of things. Okay. Do you disagree? I agree. I think it's had a thought. I agree. Because when I think about things like that, I'm always thinking about the solution aspect of it. Yes. I don't think there's a solution to it. No, there isn't. There isn't. There isn't. Because it's like you just described. You have to go to the very beginning. The amount of what you're doing you have to do is insane. I think it's just living life. I think the world would be at a better place if we all minded our business. Generally, if we all minded our business, we simply all accepted what we don't know. Or we all didn't fear the unknown. Right? So, for example, I don't know what I just saw. I really just don't know what I just saw on Twitter, or an ex, whatever, right now. But a creator was arguing with someone, and they talked about identities or something like that. I think she talked about like her lack of a relationship with God. And the person responded to her like, why don't you mind your business? You know, like Christianity is the way. Like, aggressive and honestly very like mean to her. And this doesn't also encompass every Christian, right? But I saw that. I was like, they just proved her point. Like you just alienated her from the conversation. She's not going to be engaged or interested. And there's nothing you can do about it. Because you're just feeding into the things that she's saying, right? I think that's the issue with human nature. It's like things that we don't understand. We're either fearful of, or we just want to attack it. Right? Because again, the fear is a huge aspect of it. I wonder what a world would look like if... Oh, I don't understand what you do or who you are. But I'm accepting you for who you are. Because I have no control. I don't know. I don't know. You can. So this is the problem. Right? I think the problem with the world is we've known the world. And even when I see how you create structure, I'm also coming from like a... This is a very intellectual conversation. The world can move and expand in a real structure. And we think that's the way forward. Right? That's the best way. Yeah. We're like, how does... Okay, see... How does it exist with... So see, what you say right now is like, the world has been expanding. I actually pushed back because yes, the world was expanding. But it was also at the expense of people who were pushed down. Right? When we see America has a good example of that, we talk about like, oh, America moved forward because Barack Obama became president. Like, black people were like the ones in charge in an office. We see like, then, you know, Trump came after. And then if you hear from the other perspective, like Republicans or people who vote for Trump, they will tell you that for decades, they felt like the bottom of the barrel. Like, they felt treated like dirt, treated like shit because their voices haven't been heard. I don't think we do a good job. Honestly, respecting different views of opinions or different opinions. Doesn't make sense. Instead, I think we either want our way to be the right way. And that's it. Like, right on this conversation, I think gender is the way. I think trans people have all the rights. I think gay people should always have rights. I think all these things. If you respond to this and say, you're a terrible FU. That's not right. Why? Right. It's my opinion. As your opinion is yours too. We can be respectful about it. And we can understand it. But then, at the end of the day, why are we fighting over it? I understand that, right? I want you to wear your peace and conflict hat here. Yeah, I know. Because I sure. I don't have peace and conflict hat. This is where the United Nations last year. Yeah. I understood the importance of conversation. But the part that I'm still not hearing is where does change happen. Okay. Where does change happen in this conversation? How do you change the mind of the parents? Who are assigning the blue and the pink and the barn? I think conversations like this is where change happens. However, maybe as I'm speaking for an important privilege, I don't know if it's my job to change people's minds. I think it's my job to just help them understand that they don't have to be the bully. Right? Because like, in many conversations, you become the bully with your opinions. If you don't think the other person's opinion is the right one, you become the bully. You don't even know you become a bully. And I think that's my biggest issue with the world around us. When we're talking about masculine and feminine energy, and you're telling somebody they have to be this particular way for your own comfort, you're a bully. Because you're taking away everything that ideally makes them who they are, and deciding for them that they need to present a certain way for your comfort. When sometimes it has nothing to do with you. It's not been bothering you. Right? I think those nuances are something that... Oh, maybe it is bothering you. Why should it be bothering you? It shouldn't matter. Oh, maybe okay. Maybe it is. Because of how you grew up, what you knew. Exactly. Well, that's a fight for yourself. Yes. I'll explain that. Because I grew up Muslim. Right? And the biggest thing, the biggest takeaway I ever took from religion was peace. That's it. Peace. Islam, Islam is a piece. And even with Christianity, kindness, forgiveness, support, help, all these things that are affirming and kind. And we are also passionate about those beliefs that we end up becoming bullies and becoming things that are the direct opposites of those things. Right? In the world so far. Like, I wonder a world where someone who says that their gender is fluid and wants to be identified in a certain way ends up just living their life. And then we all come to judgments if you believe in the judgment day or whatever. And have God, whoever you believe in, be the judge of what happens to them. Because I use to tell my mom when she like judges other people, I'll tell her like, wouldn't she also go to hell? Because it's in judgments where judging somebody else also is sin. Because who are you to cast the first stone as somebody who you don't even know? You don't know their life doesn't understand. And again, if this is a God who like has written everybody's stories, I want you to be coming in hypocrite by saying what God has created is wrong. Right? Yeah. Is not the argument? It is. Because we also, the idea is that humans have free will. Right? So like maybe we're going against it and it's off the devil. But again, I want you the one deciding that. Right. Right? But the will, I think, okay, this is how it works in my brain. Okay. Right? The will that we're spinning, this masculine feminine human being will, is the will that's like, you can't stop the engine to fix it. You have to fix it while we're spinning. Which is like, I love that analogy. Good job. It's the hardest thing to say is like, it can't turn off. Right? And I don't know if you guys listen to Trevor Noah's walk now. No Trevor. But in his last episode, there was something he talked about. He was talking about AI. And he was talking about this professor who was, because of the whole Gaza pattern starting thing, it was like, we'll move the wave. It shows on probation from a university. And he talked about AI. And it was really interesting in the discussion, we're talking about the implementation of AI in the context of like different parts of the world. Yeah. Because we feel like in the future we're going to have one AI. But technically the AI that is like being built is with the context of the United Arab Emirates. With the Middle East. There's the one with Africa. There's the United States one. Right? Even in America, there's the AI from the liberal side. And you know, they were talking about how AI is being used in medicine to detect breast cancer. Right? But the racial issues that exist in the medical field is also being put into this. So it's like when we think about how explosive all of this is going to be. The reason we're having this conversation now is we're starting to see. But it's going to get really, really explosive. And we're going to get to a point where the explosion happens that we're all as people force. Because of the multiple clean crashes. The random genocides, all the crazy things that are going to start happening. Or it'd have been happening. No, but like. No, honestly, I have a wear take or an all take. I don't think the things are happening right now are new. I think they're just shared more. You think so? Their social media makes us receive news quick. Does that make sense? True. Like the plane crashes have been weird. Those ones are like what's going on with the world. But also, these are industries. Think about it from like how the world is as been. Right? Like we have the industrial revolution and then you know all this inflation and the depression, all this stuff have happened. Right? It makes sense from a graph perspective. I'm not a mathematician here, right? So I forgive me for how I'm going to describe this. But it makes sense for the world to ebb and flow. Right? You have really, really high highs and you're going to have really low lows. Because the impacts of the things that have happened in the past have to be shown. Right? So the American aviation system was built several years ago. Like what? 20, 30, 40, 50 years ago. And for the most part, it stopped. There wasn't necessarily any like innovation too. Except for like maybe more fancy seats. Yeah. Like if anything, maybe making people pay more money now because tickets are $4,000, $3,000, $1,000, there used to be $200, $300,000, right? And it's all for the fancier stuff. We went from trying to just make sure planes are the safest to making sure planes are the fanciest. It makes sense that the planes will be falling out of the sky. They're not getting... Do you notice that? Do you dip it? Yeah, they're having a bar. No, it's like there's a bar. Like there's a... Like so when people were talking about like, oh, this is so weird. I'm like, honestly, it's not because we've just spent how many decades making sure planes are the nicest, making sure we're constantly pushing the capital capitalist divide of, oh, if you're going to... There's going to be... Now there's basic economy. You're not even economy at all, bathroom economy. You're in comfort plus, comfort regime, comfort plus side. So many different opportunities. Then we have first class, first class, one first class, five first class, ten. There's upstairs, there's downstairs, there's above the upstairs. There's some friends, I want to be three tiers, there's four tiers. They're making sure there's four seats. No one is saying, hmm, what if you can get from New York to Lagos in four hours instead of nine hours? Why don't we start building engines for that? You know what I mean? Like we're building airport lounges, fancy or airports, more access. We're focusing on wealth and capitalism rather than safety and security. Because I think that's not a problem for the world anymore. I'm going to go into another conversation. What did you just say? Oh my god. I'm telling if I could show you all the notes. Everything we said is not being in the notes at all. But I love this, okay, I'm listening. Go ahead. I think capitalism is very easy to look at capitalism and say, oh, you're all not innovating. Okay. Right? I hear that. I'm not saying that. I don't know. But that's like part of the conversation. I think about two sides of it. Not to talk about it. I mean, you had to play an example. Right? Because the truth is, it's difficult to look at the spreadsheets and have a company and understand how everything works with the stock market and all of this. And I understand the greed that exists. I want to just, don't pay attention to the greed for a second. Okay. Right? The human beings behind those things. Okay. How do they move forward knowing that growth is not existing? What do you mean? Like, how do you, like, if you own a plane company, right, then you make a hundred billion. How do you say, you know what? I'm okay with doing 100 billion this year. Maybe we do 105. Maybe 90. So, like, what happens when you reach the ceiling? Yes. You know that's the ceiling, right? But now you're trying to, like, artificially get and get creative, which is part of, like, the day to day. You can't misgreed. You can't take greed out. Because that's essentially what it is. The capsule's decided it's fueled by greed. It is. It's also people. Because I'm, let's come back to your statement of, like, hearing the other side. Okay. Right? Of making sure, like, we're all kind of heard. Yeah. Because this is not one person, not just a CEO. Yes. It's a group of people, it's a group of investors who are listening to the stock market, the earnings calls. Yeah. Yeah. I think it's all about choices. Okay. It's choices, right? Because they're airlines that Ryan Air is an example. Ryan Air is an example. Oh, I'm going to say spirits too. Yeah, right? They're not as big as Delta. But they don't have those issues. They don't have those issues. They don't have those issues. Because they're focused solely on, we're just going to get you in one piece from where you're going. So, they have the place. If everything is going to go wrong. For sure. And it's also covering up the mistakes that, like, we've made. Like, people have made it. For sure. For sure. I think it's all about choices. Okay. It's choices, right? They don't have those issues. Because they're focused solely on, we're just going to get you in one piece from where you're going. So, they have the place. If everything else. Southwest is a big example of that. You don't need to pay for bags. We're going to get you here. That's all our investment is. They're smaller airlines. Now, just push the point. Well, I can't speak. I just push the point of greed. At the end of the day, that's what it is. A capital city is going to be run by greed. And there's nothing you can say to argue for that. People who are innovative aren't necessarily always greedy. Right? And when they are greedy, you have an Elon Musk. Yes. Because most times, they don't start greedy. Right? Because you start asking yourself what is more. Like, I think about it from. This is so random. Mr. Beast. Right? He did an interview calling in Sermere today. Or like, we're recording a long time ago. And you can see the difference from somebody who was just like a 12-15 year old boy in his house counting one to one billion to now being a CEO of multiple companies. And he was talking about how he has this chocolate thing, festivals. And if you don't know, Coco, kids are the ones who have this cocoa in West Africa. So young child labor is what's not young child. Child labor is essentially what is fueling the cocoa market. So you can hear him talking about how this is how I'm trying to help the child labor market. Yeah, but also, I don't know if he is. Right? But that's one side of a coin. And then you also have, he's also growing a business with like these games and the problems that happen when people are saying people were discriminated against and people were, hey, people were this for a lot. So like, is capitalist agreed? Always just come handy now. And because at some point, you have to start deciding, I have so much. Do I give it back? Do I keep growing? Because I've been worried about that. I'm like, okay, I want all these big dreams. When I do have them, where what would happen next? Would I keep going? I think so. I don't know, I know. Yeah, but like, I feel like everybody who successful says that. Yes, right? I don't think there's any good billionaire out there. I think that's the game. No, yesterday. No, there isn't. I think you can be a good billionaire. I don't know if I see. I don't know if the guys are doing it. Yeah. But like, you know, like, Arizona, I see you still like a dollar or something. Like, he has never resisted. Like, yeah. That's like, pretty cool. Cool, not good. He has never resisted prices. Cool, not good. That's good though. That's cool. Not good. That's not good. Because he probably, I don't know, I was on IST. But I'm first probably sugar. And then he comes and says, cause the diabetes. So what do you mean? People were gone. He's still getting money. It's not good. It's cool. Honestly, this is not true. But maybe he also owns a pharmaceutical company. You know, I mean, it's like, cause an effect. Cause an effect? Cause an effect. Masked energy. Why is that mask? Cause an effect is under masculine traits. I don't. Okay. You're still thinking of nothing as a bad thing. Let's go to this, right? Okay. Let's go back to the first thing. Let's go back to the first thing. Let's go back to the first thing. Okay. Dominating. I am. Okay. Logical. I am. Quantity. Oh my god. I was like, fing YouTube channel. Enzyde. Yeah. Are you actually? Always. I live in a perpetual state of anxiety. That's true. I am always anxious. Yeah. I always think everything. Domination. Yeah. Okay. I think you're nurturing. I think I am. Okay. Yeah. You're compassionate. I am. You're compassionate. Uh-huh. You're a very like, okay, this is why I think. I think everyone has percentages. Okay. I feel like compassion. Okay. You have like 20%. Mm-hmm. Okay. So I'm not compassionate. Okay. So that's not true though. This doesn't have to be a nail situation. Like it doesn't have to be a zero. Okay. You know what I mean? Okay. Because I'm dominating. It doesn't also matter. What about nurture? I'm not patient. So that means like, even nurturing, you're probably you guys are 50%. Yes. Absolutely. My first instinct is into nurture. I think I just feel bad if I'm not nurturing. That's true though. That's true. You know what I mean? I feel like that plays a huge factor in like my existence, right? It's like the guilt of also like not being good, right? And that's where like masculine versus feminine energy comes from. That's a crazy thing. Because what? That's a crazy dance. Exactly. Because if you like if society is assigning masculine to bad and then you're leaning towards masculine. You're all like you have to do that. You have to call it like yes. How do you how do you function? And I think that's where a lot of men are move faster in society because they don't need to argue better good. I do. Right. Like right now when you said I'm not nurturing, I was like, oh, but I'm a woman I'm going to have kids. I want to nurture them. I'm supposed to be compassionate because I'm a woman. I'm supposed to be nice. You see the feelings come to me. If I'm like, oh, nurturing. And you're like, no, I'm like, yeah, that makes sense. You're a guy. You see the nuance in there? Even women who have maybe not as much percentage masculine. Yeah. They still have to think about it. They still have to think about it. I think about it when women are like trying to apply for jobs, CEOs and how they're perceived. Because for me, for example, right, my goal is career. I want a big career. Right. I'm a CEO of my company. I want all these things. And all those attributes are typically directed as masculine energy. However, what makes me successful as well is that I have a balance with my feminine energy. Now, it doesn't always help me all the time. But that's where balance comes in. You have to be compassionate. You have to be able to nurture something. You have to be intuitive. You have to think. You have to be thoughtful. You have to pause. I don't think any successful man in the world except for like a Matt Rogan. Is that his name? What's his name? Joe Rogan? Like, even that, I don't even need that. Unless you're like some all right toxic masculine man who refuses to just sit down for a second and think. For the most part, the balance is what will help you be successful. Does that make sense? Because you have to be balanced. And I think the issue with a lot of women though is we tend to see, or the society tells us, that masculine energy is not good for us. So when I'm driven, I feel like I shouldn't be too driven. So I don't chase somebody away. Or I don't behave a certain way. Which I think is unfortunate. So let's get back to like why this is commissioned is up for me. Because I'm wrestling with this personally. Before you continue. I have a question to ask. Okay. How do you feel when your mom says, or she'll call me? That's fine. What does that mean? Thank you, my husband. Yeah. Well, I feel like she's not using it necessarily as like her husband. I think it's just a term. No, obviously. No, no, no. She's not using it obviously. She's not calling you a husband. Yeah. But like, it's masculine. Yes. That's what she's saying. Yeah. Because I won't be a provider, right? Yeah. Right. I have never thought of that. I have never thought of that. I have never thought of that. That's what I hear. Oh. For context, guys. Oshia Kamei is Europe. My mom is Europea. And I'm Europea too. I don't know why I don't like that. But Oshia Kamei means thank you, my husband. Right. And husband is a male assigned to that. And she says that for like my brother and me as like when I usually say money or do stuff like that. I never thought about it from that because I don't think she would say Oshia Kamei. And if she did say Oshia Kamei, yeah, it would be the like my mother. She wouldn't say, yeah, woman, she would say mother. And that would typically, she would only maybe ever say that to like an elderly auntie who's nurturing or who's taking care of something. I'm necessarily for a financial providing. And I've never actually deep-died in that way. I think it's okay that masculine energy is also attributed to masculine or male traits or names and culture and stuff because I think that's just causing the effect of society. Right. Like there's nothing we can do about maybe we say masculine energy is male, feminine energy is female. I think what we need to do more of is helping people understand that both of them exist in us. And how we use them as powers is what's important here. Right. So for me, for example, and I was just what I'm going to get to, I've always existed within the masculine energy space. And this might sound so frivolous. That's so funny. What? The masculine energy space? Yeah. Okay. I don't know why it's like that way. I've always had a lot of masculine energy. And when I say masculine energy, I mean, I've always been like all these traits of active, external energy, dominating, initiating, left brain, logical, certain quantity, cause and effect, all those things came so natural to me. Right. And I spent the entirety of my life essentially, like just feeling those feelings. However, I also would not neglect the feminine energy in me as well. Right. It just got to a point I think last year when I realized I wanted to lean more into my feminine energy because I wanted different outcomes now. Right. I don't think that's necessarily a good or a bad thing. It's just a thing I'm figuring out about myself. Sure. Like who I am. I think I'm going to be a better CEO and a better woman if I leaned more into my feminine energy. And I can see it show up now. I'll give you an example. Like a Coleman Domingo. Okay. Right. Coleman Domingo, Kevin Hart, Trevor Noah. Right. When I see people like that, they're very like intention about how they look, how they speak, how certain they are about certain things. They're very, let me use words here. They're very introspective. You can see them being like creative and you can see them creating quality products. Right. And they're oftentimes like very strong in that sense too. For me, I always saw that and I wanted to be able to exist in that duality and I felt like as a woman I couldn't. Now I'm learning that I can. So like because I'm also fighting ideas of like, oh, if I want to do makeup and like be very careful about my fashion sense and do all these things, I'll be too much of a girl. Right. I can't be too much of a baddie. I can't be too much of a this. I can't be too much of a that. I'm learning now that like it's okay to lean into that too because when you join those two together, I think it's more explosive. So it makes us like even for you, for example, when I first met Donald, like you're so intentional about how you're presenting. Does that make sense? Like the way you look, the way you speak, the way you act, like what your bag is and where they say, I'm just yaga yaga. Like I just, I'm a mess. You know what I mean? And a lot of times like think about it from like teenagers room. Usually like if the girls' room is messy, it's like, oh, she's just a girl. She has a lot of makeup on here or whatever. But the guys' room is messy. It's like, oh, he's so like, he's so logical and stuff. I was always supposed to like, how my please always tidy, but I never took care of my physical appearance. Or like I never, I was never introspective. I didn't give a fuck. I just wanted to, I just wanted to act. I wanted to do it like, oh, we need to shoot. We all have to shoot. Like I didn't care about anything else. I'm learning now that it's important to take the time, to take care of you and feed into that feminine side of you. Like that feminine energy to create the best possible outcome. That was a long rant. Good rhyme. Yeah, how are you feeling? I feel like Donald's feminine energy comes a lot from his elder sister. Yeah, I think my elder sister, my elder sister. Because he has two sisters. And I lived in a house with all the women. I could go out like aunties. And stuff we're always coming in. Yeah. House helps. Yeah. And we've been talking about this. We're going to like go back to the notes. As far as masculine feminine energy, I think it's crucial to recognize the difference between what those words mean in a social context. And what they mean in a philosophical spiritual context. The most basic way I can think of is to differentiate them is giving and receiving. masculine gives seed. Feminine receives and nurtures it. Do you agree with that? Okay. So masculine in your sheets? Yes. I can see that. So let's talk about it from a relationship standpoint. Because every time people talk about like same sex relationships versus like straight relationships. Every time, right? You hear. So who's the man in the relationship? I wonder if that conversation is more who holds the more masculine energy rather than who's the man. Because I think that's where the dynamic is. Like in every relationship, there is the person who is the logical one and the emotional one. And people tend to attribute the logical person to be the male or the male equivalence in a relationship. That's not always the case. But that's not always the case. Yes. So I think it's a theme of like who's exerting that energy. Yes. Because everybody has it. Yes. Right. So like times when I've dated men, I used to always, I would say this to all my friends. I used to always date folks where I had the masculine energy. And I would always struggle to like sit in my feminine energy for some reason. And whenever I was flipped and I date women too, it was the same thing. Like I would still always sort of like still being that masculine energy until I met someone who like flipped it for me. And I was like, oh wait, it actually exists. I can actually sit in my feminine energy. It just depends on who is bringing that side out of me. Does that make sense? And so for the longest time, we'll talk about like being in relationships, especially men and women. And like the man is usually the masculine one of them. Like it was never a negative for me too, by the way. Like it was just like, oh, I just knew that in this situation, I'm typically always the one who's more logical, or the one who's more assertive in this way, the one who's always giving. And like I know like wherever my partner is, it's always going to take it and nurture it. And that balance was always key to me. Which is why I always struggle with like male versus female because I feel like it's just like its intentionality. And the balance of that. Understanding, yeah. I think like, if your guy is going to be able to be a girl who exerts masculine energy to, he needs to understand how to navigate that. What would you say that is? I would say she's feminine. Yes, she is. She's feminine, but she's also masculine in her career. Let's talk about that real quick. Okay. Why do we attribute masculine energy to career goals? I'm using this. I'm using this, right? Because like, no, there are careers where you can still be successful in a career while you're using the creative ambivalent, your right brain, your compassionate, your yielding. I think both things work together. Because like, for example, let's bring in right brain. Oh, sorry. Let's bring in right brain, right? Yeah. Because when you bring up that, I'm thinking, right, like when you say that, I'm thinking, okay, how is she approaching her career? Yeah. She's auditioning at the time. Yeah. Right? That's intuition. Yeah. You have to audition. Yeah. But it's also logical to know that you have to act immediately. Yeah. Right? She's like, how are those two? I think she just exists. Okay. For example, like, someone who is sitting in her feminine energy, who's also really successful in that career, I don't think that exists. Exactly. She's always sitting. Yeah. In her feminine energy. And it's not like utilizing the masculine style at all. Yeah. Wouldn't be successful. In general. In career or whatever. Tell me. I'm going to mute me. No. A good example. Well, she's successful. Yes. What do you mean, explain? Like, she's successful. Yeah. So the success can happen with the feminine. Yes. Right? But honestly, I would say we're talking about someone we don't want you guys to know about. But I would say she does not sit in any masculine energy or her masculine energy is very little. However, I think she manipulates masculine energy to further her femininity. So she understands. Which is a part of masculine energy to begin with. Huh. Deep that real quick. That's true. So I think that's why I'm like, everybody has both energies in them. Like, I can be fully in my feminine energy. And sometimes, let me use an example of someone who is like passive. Right? I'm a woman presenting person who's really passive. And I meet someone who's like a very toxic masculine man. I can still get what I want. But I use it my passivity essentially to get what I want. Does that make sense? You have to understand your tools and knowing how to use it. I get that too. Because a good example of me is like, I'm really good with my male friends. Yeah. How to handle men? Yeah. Like, how do men sounds crazy? No, like, for sure, accurate. Like, if you're a guy, it's very hard for you to catch your guard. Like, the men are predictable. Yeah, it's like... Well, also see, this is such a broad statement to make. Men are predictable because I don't think a lot of men are introspective. I don't think a lot of men are raised to actually think and be introspective about their wants in life. I think too many men are simply just leading blindly. Too many men. No, no, no. I'm telling you. Think about it. I don't think decision-making is primarily masculine. Oh, no, no. No mind is making a decision for themselves, especially men who are married. Because I don't think decisions are logical for the most part. Male decisions? Decisions in general. I think decisions are very... Explain that. Like, the process of making a decision? This is such a very intense conversation. No, it's just... I don't know where y'all... I don't know where this podcast is going to go. Yeah. But this is why I'm like... This podcast is so special to me. Sorry, this is such a sidebar. Because... Where... Where on the internet is this conversation happening? That's true. Where? I feel like where the first was ever talking about this. I just... Exactly. Right? Okay, sorry, go on. Decision-making. Right. I don't think it's logical. Because decisions are in itself like a guess. It's a feeling. Yes it is. Absolutely. But what do you mean decisions though? Like, check any decision. No. Like, you want to choose if you want to... There are two doors. Oh, so yes. Okay, okay, okay. So we might see what we mean. So it's like... You're guessing. Yes, because I don't think... Men are that great at making decisions. I don't think any human is great at making a decision. I think what helps a decision is when you pull from both energies. Right? And I think that's what issues come in. So let's think about it from like marriage perspective. Okay. Especially like a straight marriage. So a man and woman are gay married. A lot of times when it's like, Oh demand leads and woman follows. I think that's very stupid. Yeah. Because it makes no sense. Because when people talk about like, Oh demand is the head and woman is the neck. That's again very stupid. Because the neck and the head have to be connected for it to move. They had only moves because the neck... Why is she the neck? Because the neck... Why is she the neck? Because she's supposed to follow the head. The brain isn't that. Follow the rest of the body. Shhh, that's not the body. It's not the body. Okay. It's just the body. But like for me to turn my head, my neck has to move with it. Right? So it's supposed to work in tandem. The neck has to move. Yes. In every partnership, both people bring something to the table. Right. And even in like non-romantic relationships, whether that's like a career relationship, workplace, you've seen people who are like going to business together and they're like, it's not going to work out. Because they're both, either maybe you have too much masculine energy within them, too much feminine energy between them, that it doesn't work. But the beautiful yin and yang, the beautiful connection always happens when you both honing on what your energies are and know how they work together. Right. So the idea of like decisions making essentially is like, men tend to make the decisions because, again, if we talk about male mental health, it's supposed to go so many places. I think about male mental health, right? How many men feel comfortable enough to talk about how exhausting it is to make decisions like that? You know how scary it is? No. To be a man who has no idea what he's doing, who has just been born and said, you are going to be a leader. So you're going to marry a woman. You're going to know exactly what's going to happen to your family. You're going to have to make all the money this month. And you see why when men lose their jobs, they fall away. Because now their woman is asking then what's going to happen next to us and they're looking like I don't have any direction because I don't know what to do. Because there's no partnership happening. There's no Yang and Yang happening. And I think that's my issue with a lot of relationships and a lot of partnerships. You forget that to make anything work, it's supposed to be a partnership. It's supposed to be Yang and Yang. What I bring to the table and what you bring to the table should complement each other, not necessarily clash with each other. And so I wish more men had the opportunity to open up more to each other, to their wives, to their partners. Because then I think the world would be a better place. Sorry, random. No, sorry. I'm not sorry. I take that. Sorry, back. Women apologize too much. It's true. Okay, it says masculine is the sun and it's in all the energy that creates life. Feminine is the moon reflecting the light of the sun and providing stability for life on Earth. That seems very like starry, but that makes sense. It's true though. Yeah. Okay. Did you know that the moon has started to literally stabilize the axis of the Earth, preventing it from wobbling, which will cause temperatures to change to rapidly for life to develop? I didn't know that. And masculine is the positive pole. Yeah. Yeah, gravity. Great. Oh, that's right. masculine is the positive pole of a magnet. Feminine is negative. They're naturally arising opposite forces, which fundamentally need each other and provide each other partners and meaning. That's interesting, because plus times minus is minus. masculine is the positive pole of a magnet. Feminine is negative. Why are you multiplying them? Why are you not subtracting them? Because you can't add it. Exactly. Because they're opposite sides of the force. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. But if you multiply it. Why are you multiplying? Because we're even a multipolar society. No, we don't. Yes, we do. How are you multiplying? They get to get million people like this. It's not one planet. It's not one planet. It's not one planet. It's one plus one. What you said right now doesn't make sense in this scenario, because you're not multiplying the positive and negative, because they're not multiplying. They're supposed to both exist in tandem, like exactly like that. They can't become anything, because they're supposed to be plus and minus. Does that make sense? And because both of them is what creates the magnet. Yes. That's what I meant. I don't know why you're multiplying here, because they're not multiplying anything. This is the fault of the teachers. We're only young. Because why did they multiply it? For math. I'm so confused. That's why I feel like we do it like your brain cells sometimes. Because I don't even get to negative. I don't know. Anyways. This thing runs deep. It runs really deep. This is a very intense conversation. Propaganda. Propuck. Okay, that was. Let's take a breath. Let's take a breath. It is very exhausting. What part? To exist as a man. Okay. Right, because. Let's talk about it. Because I think my early 20s was a lot harder than now. And the difference is I think now I have a lot more support or understanding of myself in terms of like the masculine and feminine side. Do you think that's all self-imposed though? You mean like in the feeling that I have? No, no, no. Yes. The feeling but also like men having a hard time. I think that's self-imposed. I think it's two things. Okay. One, it's not understanding the existence of the feminine side. Right. But it's also being thrown into society. Right. Without any potential backing. Right. I was 16. I need to find a place to live. I think it's a power thing. I'm not in any way. It is. It's negating. It wasn't even forced. From my case, this was not like my parents. No, no, no. I'm saying like it wasn't a choice. You didn't have a choice. The more you were born a boy and you had to watch my dad like exist. Yeah. I understand that I'm getting to a point where I'm in. But that's where the intuition comes from. I think it's a privilege from a position of power that men feed into. Right. I think it's something they feed into. Because when you're the oppressor or when you're the one in charge or you're the one with the power in this case. It's harder to question it at a young age. Right. So how you, when you watch your dad, when you see like when you're watching Captain America on TV or like superheroes and all you see are men dominating and being aggressive and being this. It's harder for you to question and say, what about like the other people? Like why am I not caring? Because when the TV is telling you caring is feminine or you can't be this, you can't talk, you can't do this. It's harder for you to question why that's the norm because you're the one benefiting from that society. Yes. But also, it's also hard to lean into that if you even like experience it for a little bit because of what society would say. Exactly. And that's why again, I say, who society tends to be male, male men navigating what society is. So again, that's why I said, is it self-imposed? I must say, like this same thing can be said for women. Yeah, and of course. That's some of these commissions happening, right? It's like, is it all self-imposed? Right? Because I also know women who tell you like, they don't want equality, they don't want this, they don't want that. Because my auntie is being like, oh yeah. And like, your father is not around. And it's always, you're constantly perpetuating this idea that this is exact. And again, it goes all the way to the beginning about human nature and just wanting things a certain way. Because that's how we would all survive. Like, questioning things throws a wrench in our plans. Like, you need to be born, say you're a boy or a girl, go to school, finish school, get a job, start working, provide for your family for your boy, provide and support your husband if you're a girl, marry half kids, a boy or a girl, grow old together. Most of you die, your kids have their children and the human cycle that we've been taught. That is it, right? That makes no sense. Because that doesn't put into perspective human nature. What if the man is cheating? What if the woman hates the man? What if she doesn't want to date a man? What if the man doesn't want to date a woman? What if they don't want to have kids? What if one person doesn't want to have kids? What if this person falls out of love? What if this person doesn't want to love? What the story that we've been told that is normal is what I just said. Does that make sense? So for me, my issue is stuff like, that's why it makes sense when I say self-imposed. Because when you tell people actually this should be thought differently. Because we are throwing away the structure of what we know. Why is this smiling? Because, oh my god, philosophy is so interesting. Oh my, philosophy is so interesting. I've seen it. I've seen it. I've seen it. I've seen it. I've seen it. I've seen it. And in my head, I'm just like, okay, on one hand, how do you feel about being the exception? Yes. Then, I'm also thinking about the fact that, and we're used to answer that. I'm also thinking about the fact that, okay, we exist in a world where some of our biggest issues are like overpopulation. Right? Sidebar. Hold that. Hold that. I'm going somewhere. So many places. But at the same time, I'm also in some version of this same conversation, we probably wouldn't be born without this overpopulation, which mitigates our existence. I don't necessarily get another right word by the way you mean, because if you're not born, you wouldn't know. And if you don't know. No, I understand. But there's a chance that we probably wouldn't have been born if we don't know that. Because I'm coming from what you're seeing, right? You might have been born in different places. Because the cultures and the male and female and masculine, like the way society is shaped right now, has resulted in a lot of things that we're also benefiting from in some sense. Because in a world where people are choosing who they love, the side argument is that it's like a structure that's in control. People are not giving birth. Right? We do need more people. We do like all these different arguments that make sense or not make sense in different directions. I wonder if that's what I'm getting at. Yeah, but I wonder if that was the society. I am 100,000% sure. Technological advancements would have been faster on how to give birth without a man and a woman. If that was the world of living. Okay, okay. It would have happened 30 years ago. That's 100 years ago. You see what I mean? Like, because that's what life is, right? Like, you give people, you give. You won't figure it out. Human nature is figuring shit out. That's crazy. Like, you know what I mean? The only reason the argument doesn't make sense right now is because that's not the norm, right? So because it's not the norm, it's, you're fighting for something. I was like, when women talk about like not wanting kids, abortion is hard to come by because that's not the norm. You should want a child. And for you to get abortion, it's going to be hard for you because you're not the norm. Boy, if it was a word where we're like, oh, it's, China's one child policy is the norm. Having two kids was a problem. Right. I mean, it's like, no, no, you can have two. Yeah. You could have two. Right? That's the, like, we shape our existence. We have the power. We have the power to shape our existence. Now, that was a terrible policy to be had, right? Boy, it happened because of overpollution, whatever it is. But again. It was growing too much. Yeah. Because again, choices and what people need to do, like, it's human nature. Honestly, it's like, I, I, like, this may seem like where we see it. I'm speaking to myself. Yeah. I'm receiving everything. I know what it was saying. Just chill with this conversation. Well, like, because you just asked me my question. Yeah. I think that's what, like, drives me nuts about people being so rigid about their opinions and their thoughts. Because you don't know what the fuck is going on. Right. No one does. That's what life is. You're just making choices based on what you've learned, what you believe in, what someone has told you. And you're hoping it's the right one every day. Right. So who the fuck are you to tell somebody else how to live their life when they're also making choices for themselves? You know what I mean? Like, when you talk about like being the exception, the issue right now is, at the beginning of the talk, I was talking about trans rights and trans rights. Would I have been like planning to do that? It came up in the conversation. And I can imagine people feeling some type of way about that and already making their choice about us and having their opinions about it. It makes no sense to me. And I think I've had to live my life understanding that because I'm the exception, I have to deal with it. Like, I have to understand that I will get attacked constantly because of my beliefs, right? Because of how I move, because of how I act. And it's a constant knock on myself. It seems a constant knock on myself. So you think you're still fighting it? You have to. What do you mean? I have to fight it. Like, I'm nervous every time I open my mouth to talk. Because I know like the things I have to say aren't the norm. They're not. I don't think they would ever be, right? Like, when I think about religion, when I think about sex, when I think about sexuality, when I think about gender, when I think about power and economics and capitalism and all this stuff, I don't think it will be known because I don't think everything. I don't think what we're doing in the world right now is fair because it's what all constantly just playing games to put people down. Does that make sense? But I'm also very, very logical, right? So I'm not going to be kumbaya. I think everything is great. No, no, no. But I think we live in a world where to be the exception, to be the oddity, to be the oddity is you choosing to walk a different path in everybody else. And oftentimes people see walking that different path as an act of aggression rather than as an act of resistance. Does that make sense? Anyways. Because you're constantly having to ask yourself if you're too loud. Sorry I have to do it. Oh yeah, that's cute. I think that's what it is. I think that's why I hope our podcasts are at this point. I hope it finds a home where people who are open to conversation. Because every time I speak to people, I'm not choosing, like everything we talk right now, I'm not choosing to convince you to pick a certain thing or think a certain way. I'm simply convincing you to have a conversation to open your mind up to the possibility of more than what you know. I think I don't know why I'm like this. And that's the difference. I don't know why I'm like this. I have no strong feelings about anything in the world. It's crazy. No, it's like, you know, I have none. Which is like, because why? Because like, why flow? I just go with the flow. Like, I'm telling you, even I could, I would find a reason and I know I'm not doing, I don't need to find it. I understand people who are fighting for America to be great again. You know, I mean, I understand Donald Trump and his issues. I understand Elon Musk. I don't agree. But I understand what has happened with humanity to necessitate people like that being in power. You know what I mean? Like, I just get it. Because I lean into that feminine side of like being intuitive, being understanding. Because I think that's the only way for you to survive the world. You can't simply be closed off because your way is the right way. No one's way is the right way. Who the fuck are you? Do your findings. Okay. This is so interesting. I think like your peace and comforts. Always comes out when I talk of us. Every day I talk. I'm always like, you, it's obviously really good. It just like sits in the middle. Right? I am. I am. I am. I've kind of like rubbed off you. Yeah. Right? I rubbed off of you. Yes. Yeah. And even me, I'm trying to sit in the middle. But my side of my brain, because I'm thinking like, how do we find direction with that? Right? Because direction needs to happen. The middle is not bad. No, the middle is not bad. But you know what happens in the middle? Potential energy. What's potential energy? Potential energy is like energy that is like static. That's not true. Do you think because I said in the middle, I'm not action. I'm not action oriented. I don't make decisions. This is my thing. I think you preach the pendulum in the middle. You preach a balanced pendulum. Yeah. But when you take action, your pendulum is swinging. Uh-huh. Right? Yeah. In this direction, this direction. Now, I think like your pendulum is not swinging with a lot of biases. No, I think it's not necessarily like my pendulum is switching. I sit in the middle and I'm able to move through whatever decision I make. Because I have different, I have a different outlook. I look every time. Right? Like, I'm able to say today, I think this. And tomorrow I say, never mind, I think this instead. Because I'm fing human. Human nature is not, you're not meant to just simply stick to one thing. Like, when I think of like far right or far left and this and that. Like, when I think of people who talk about being rich is a bad thing. Right? Like, people shouldn't be rich all the time. Yes. But also, if they have that money, they can help other people. Like, who has the power, who doesn't? Maybe for this particular situation, if they have that money, they can help people who do the thing. You know what I mean? Like, I can always argue. I hear you. Okay, talk to me. I hear you. For what? For what? For what? For what? How do you get, because it's easy to make that argument when you talk about yourself. No, I'm not talking about myself right now. No, no. In an example, right? How do you make it for a society? How does this society, because that's the thing, right? Because everyone cannot be synchronized at the same time. Yes. That would be a just. How do we... Understanding. Because the issue right now is the world is so far different endings, because we stop understanding each other. There's no... You see what I mean? Everyone is just... You used to use, like, the American Post School... America stopped understanding each other. Okay. I think... I think Obama was that. That was like the Renaissance to an extent, right? And it's been happening slowly. So a society that experienced... What am I going to explain? A society that perpetrated racism and decided not to address racism and have repercussions for racism cannot be successful. There are millions of people in this country who still till this day hate black people. Right. I think they're less than. That's the fact. A world that perpetrated colonization, slavery, and we don't talk about it. It's apartheid in South Africa. Right. And I know these are such grand things, but we don't understand each other because we've done so much within our history. And then we just say, always in the past let's just move on without understanding it. And then you see folks like Donald Trump saying we're going to ban history books, because we don't want to teach people that. So we just move forward anyways. That's not the right thing to do. Right. I think if anything... That's not understanding. Right. Learning, understanding each other, compassion, listening. And all the things in feminine energy should be what we should be talking about. And it's easy to preach that because we're not going to listen. But ideally in the best world, people are going to be understanding. Like I wonder what a world will look like if white people said we have sinned because you fing have. You're maybe not being you, but you're four five hours of your asses is whatever it is. Like this is so random. This is girl on TikTok, this white girl who wraps till black music. I don't know if you've seen this stuff. She's a white girl who wraps the black music and she grew her following based off of black people being like, this is entertaining. Or okay girl, you're one of us. And she has a black boyfriend. She ended up, I think they said she voted for Donald Trump. And she did a video where she basically was like, actually I don't really read. I don't really care. That's none of my problem. I did not vote because I'm 19. I didn't really care to vote. I don't have a side. That to me is the problem because a different response is help me understand how to be better. And how many people in the world will choose to say help me understand how to be better. Because then that means you're telling yourself, I am open to learning. Too many of us think we've already learned enough. Especially as we're growing older, you think we're already there. Like we can't learn more. But the beauty of humanity should be that you're constantly learning, right? Because you should understand people, learn different people, go to different cultures. People who are the most traveled are, oh, honestly, usually the ones who are very open. Because when you see and experience different things, you're able to understand the world better. That's my little man argument. Okay. I won't ask questions. Okay. Kamala Harris. Okay. Masked her family. I don't know her enough. From what you see. From what I see, I would say masculine energy and I would say her husband presents as feminine energy. Okay. Right? And I switch it. I think Michelle Obama is heavy masculine energy. Barack Obama is heavy feminine energy. I think that's why they work. For sure. I don't know them. I hope to one day. I think that's it. I can see that. I can see that so heavy. Yeah, because like, like she's not coming to the inauguration. Oh, no. That's boss b energy, bro. Like what? Ah, I love Michelle Obama. But yeah, I think that's pretty much it. I suppose it was there. It's like you... Your middle mind argument makes sense. Thank you. I think I can convince anyone. Shout out to George Mason University. Come on. Look at how this is a resolution. No, because I feel like honesty. Here's why. Let me argue. No one will argue. But let me tell you, I think why I feel this way. First of all, I was literally... The way I was raised. Didn't help me become this. I think I just... I just believe I... I just questioned a lot of things as a kid. I don't know why. I'm just so grateful. I've always had the question of being a question person in general. I will say, I went to school for peace and conflict. And the idea of peace and conflict is you're studying war and you're studying peace. And you're figuring out how to solve conflicts in the world. And the first thing you learn in a peace and conflict class is you can't stop war. Like there's always going to be war in the world. Because by human design, we're not meant to be at peace with each other. Because we're all too different. Does that make sense? Well... So when you understand that as the basis, you become more compassionate and understanding about the world we live in. Because then you realize the reason why war is happening is because everybody's so rigid about their own opinions and their own thoughts and their own ways. Nobody's actually understanding each other to begin with. And then you have countries and you have cultures that are so rigid that it's our way or the highway and nothing else. And then you have captors and you have money and you have so many things that the world is literally burning. And you just have to stand there and go, how can I survive this? And so for a lot of people to survive is to just either feed into it or don't feed into it. And for most people, we just feed into it because they need to survive. So when you see someone who's a black American from a last week's episode of Black American who's saying, I don't have time to go back to Africa to go and see my testosterone more than that because I just need to find food to eat on the table in America. It makes sense because the world is burning around me. I need to survive. The same way as when you see someone in Nigeria telling you, I don't care about people in Palestine because when I don't have food to eat on the table, who cares about that? The market woman in Nigeria telling food saying, why am I going to be thinking about giving to charity? When even the charity is not even on my doorstep yet. What are you saying that to give a f** is a luxury? Yes. That's a good conclusion to make. Is there a one? I love to find, and I don't know if you know this in my... I love to find one sentence, one piece of a puzzle, like... To feed into it. Here, take it. Who are you to find an answer to people's problems? Never for the problems. Who are you? That's why you're in the middle. Again, understanding is the best way to survive the world. If I understand you and your thinking, I can better help you. If I don't understand and I still choose to help you, I'm making things worse. That makes sense. That is why I say understanding and being in the middle always helps. For example, the Democrats and the Republicans in the Americans context. The Democrats right now, I know willing to understand Republicans. You see in the media all the time. Republicans are no willing to understand Democrats. That's why we're going to have Trump in office, and the next year we're going to have some other person in office who people who are MAGA would never relate to. I don't know when a time will ever come when we're going to have one person who everybody can look to and say they united everybody else. Back home in Nigeria, the same thing. Even in friendship groups in life, someone who is able to say let's just understand each other. And it sounds so la la la la la. But it really isn't. Because understanding shouldn't be a feminine or masculine thing. It should be a logical thing and an emotional thing. I understand you from a human level because your choices had to be made for a certain reason. But logically, I have to understand you too to move forward. That's the only way to survive and move through life. Because nobody knows what the fuck they're doing. We're going to end this episode here. I hope you guys take some time to think through everything we said. I love when people are watching the episode and they're commenting at the same time. If you're listening on Spotify, sometimes you can only comment once on Spotify. So feel free to go on YouTube if you want to watch the full video and see our faces when we're talking. So you can comment there too. Or send us a freaking DM about this conversation. I think I just, you guys, share a favorite part of the episode. Share the part that I made you go. Sophie, this is too loud. Share the part that you disagree with. Share the part that you agree with. Share the part that you want to crest me out about. Share it. The negative. The positive. The in between. The middle. All of it. We want to hear it. And tag us. And I might talk a lot. I might talk a lot. I might talk a lot. I might talk a lot. I might talk a lot. I might talk a lot. I might talk a lot. I might talk a lot. I might talk a lot. I might talk a lot. Have fun. Have fun. You guys can submit voice中record. 10G ms Wave 10G ms Daddycy I'm thinking East Africa. East Africa, really? Let me see. Well, I just listened to your podcast and I loved it. I'm also in my period. My stomach hurts so much. Like, guys, don't you love being a girl? Like, I don't know. Okay, so what I wanted to say was, I don't really know if I like being a girl. I don't think I like being a guy either, but I don't like it. I don't like it. And so I'm so confused right now. Just so weird. Interesting. We did not plan that to work with this episode. No. Oh, wow. I will say this. Last year. Also, hey, thank you for submitting this episode. I think what she's also asking, I'm going to add on to the question or like her thoughts is being a girl, being a woman is exhausting, right? Because outside of masking and feminine energy, women also comes with a lot of hormones, a lot of like societal expectations, a lot of just feelings that we oftentimes don't know how to navigate, right? That is just very human, very woman, essentially, if you identify as one. And that goes for like men too in certain ways, like just feelings in general. I started realizing that when I moved with my, I should talk about being on our period. And I just want to say you're on your period and you don't like being a girl, it makes sense. It just does because your hormones are changing in that moment. And your feelings you're having then are also really important. So I've learned, and this was like a year, two years ago, I started doing this thing where I tended to be more in my feminine energy when I was on my period or when I was ovulating. When I was going through those cycles where I had more estrogen in me, or like I was feeling a lot, like I had that, sort of my hormones were all over the place versus when my hormones weren't. Because again, that's why I think it's so beautiful when you see women lead because we have that power to be able to balance that so well. Like most men don't necessarily have a surplus of estrogen. I'm a biological major, I don't know. Okay, so maybe we actually even talk about that. Well for a lot of women, we do, right? So like, you know, you see me when I'm like, right now I'm so logical, I'm so active. Like I'm working, I'm shooting through episodes today while doing da, da, da, da, da, da, da. And then give me two weeks, and I'm on the couch every day. Don't just call me, I'm not picking up and exhausted and tired. And that's usually always correlating with my period being here and stuff. And I would always just be like, ugh, I hate this, I'm upset by it. But whenever I choose to say, this is my time to rest, I'll switch in my brain flips. I don't hate being a girl anymore. I'm empowered by it. And I wonder if more men chose to find times to rest in between just like, cause don't know what works a lot, just like I do. And when Donald burns out, he burns out. Like he's done, right? And I don't think he's consciously thinking I need to rest because my body's exhausted. Women, I feel like have that natural instinct of like, what is gonna tell you when to rest, cause you need it. I think men need to work a little bit harder to get that, essentially. But when they do, it just makes them a lot better. You see how she's a preacher? What do you mean? Because I was like, how do you take, make sense? I'm just interested in how, like, I think the question that I turn into that. You took it and then you're like, if you flipped it, but it doesn't make sense. Yeah, I feel like that's what it is. It's like using it as your, your, take it, finding the superpower in it. Because like the reason why we feel useless in our periods because society is telling us that we should be working 24-7. No human should be doing that. No woman should have to get up and do that. Why? You know what I mean? Like women who feel guilty after a childbirth having to go to work because you have to do a child, you just birth a whole, you know, you almost died. What do you mean you feel guilty? Like, fuck that child, but you can't, society. You know what I mean? It's little things like that. You just keep in perspective now. I do that a lot. Like, this is like my, this is not. I'm trying right now to lean into both of my energies to see if I'm gonna find more success in it. Because I think that's even what my superpower is. And I feel like everybody needs to take a moment if you listen to this episode to like look at the traits or just like research, whatever. And write out traits that you feel like are innately you can see how you can use that in different parts of your life. Like right now in my romantic life, I'm enjoying utilizing more of my feminine energy. In my career life, I'm using my masculine energy. But then I'm also not taking a step back and in my career wanting to use more feminine energy because I've used masculine for so much and for so long that I miss having the feminine energy in my career. And I think this past week and a half has been me using a lot of more feminine energy my career. And I've even seen more of a balanced well-being for myself than anything else. So guys, that was a fun episode. I feel like we're coming into our own on this channel. That was, don't know, like, OK? That was a lot to digest over my days. All right, guys, I think that's pretty much the end of this episode. We're gonna see you when we see you. I think we're gonna see you next week. Next week. This is a kind of, you just got to chill after when I just feel like, oh my days. And what was that? You guys will have a chance to watch the last episode. Yeah. That's what I really enjoy. We enjoyed it. So when this comes out, obviously, the last episode that come out, the title, I buy black or I buy black. Oh, my African, that was a fun episode. Yeah, but if you haven't listened to it, go give it a listen. All right, guys, we'll see you in our next episode. Let us see. We're gonna be in the comments, for sure. I feel like this is gonna be a common, heavy episode. Yeah. We love you very much. We'll see you in our next video in our next podcast episode. I love you guys. Bye, guys. Say bye, don't know. Bye, guys. I feel like I always end up saying say bye, don't know.